[Qgis-psc] Request about training certificates from QGIS user group Ecuador
Anita Graser
anitagraser at gmx.at
Tue Feb 1 09:35:41 PST 2022
Dear Adrian,
We have discussed your request in the PSC and I'm writing to let you
know that user groups are welcome to apply to be part of the
certification program.
In this case, a reviewer from the certification team will review the
training materials and give a recommendation to the PSC who will provide
a second pair of eyes and make the final decision.
Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any questions.
Regards,
Anita
On 01.02.2022 00:44, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks for sharing your rationale Anita, +1 for option 3 from me on
> that basis.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 1:38 PM Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I agree with Anita. Option 2 seems more consistent. It ensures
> that there are always two parties accepting an application for
> training certification.
>
> I also don't expect a "flood" of applications from user groups. It
> would probably be more the exception than the rule that a user
> group also applies for running QGIS training with training
> certificates.
>
> Andreas
>
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 14:20, Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at> wrote:
>
> I'm not against option 3 but I was voting for option 2 for the
> following reason: If the applicant is not a user group, then a
> user group and the reviewer check that everything is in order.
> However, if the applicant is a user group and we still want to
> have two parties that look over the application, then reviewer
> and PSC seems like a natural approach.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anita
>
> On 31.01.2022 12:48, Tim Sutton wrote:
>> Hi Hans
>>
>> Apologies, I stand corrected, I assume Anita also intended 3?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:19 AM Hans van der Kwast
>> <h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>> That's in fact option 3: review of course materials,
>> decision by reviewer.
>>
>>
>> If there are no objections with that, I'll proceed with
>> requesting the course materials from QGIS Ecuador.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>> *Sent:* 28 January 2022 20:07
>> *To:* Hans van der Kwast
>> *Cc:* Marco Bernasocchi; Andreas Neumann; QGIS PSC List;
>> Kurt Menke
>> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-psc] Request about training
>> certificates from QGIS user group Ecuador
>> CAUTION: External email. Ensure this message is from a
>> trusted source before clicking links/attachments.
>>
>> Hi Hans
>>
>> I would be good for option 2 - I dont think the PSC needs
>> to get involved unless you want to defer to them for
>> advice. For me that follows the Principle of Self
>> Organisation better.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:28 AM Hans van der Kwast
>> <h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> I don't recall the arguments we had for not allowing
>> user groups to join the certificate program and I'm
>> not against that.
>>
>> So I assume we all agree that user groups can apply.
>>
>>
>> For the review, however, we can't apply the normal
>> procedure and need to decide how to come to a decision.
>>
>> Here are some options. I prefer the first one.
>>
>> 1. Applications of official User Groups will be
>> immediately accepted by the reviewer. User Groups
>> by definition contribute to QGIS and we can
>> assume that given the expertise in the group the
>> course materials are of high quality and up-to-date.
>> 2. After application of a User Group they are asked
>> to provide course materials for review. PSC takes
>> decision based on advise from reviewer (in the
>> normal procedure a User Group takes the decision
>> and if there's no User Group, the PSC takes the
>> decision based on advise from the reviewer).
>> 3. Same as 2, but reviewer takes the decission
>> without involvement of PSC.
>>
>>
>> Please let me know your opinions so I can proceed
>> with the application for QGIS Ecuador.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>> *Sent:* 28 January 2022 01:11
>> *To:* Marco Bernasocchi
>> *Cc:* Andreas Neumann; Hans van der Kwast; Kurt
>> Menke; QGIS PSC List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-psc] Request about training
>> certificates from QGIS user group Ecuador
>> CAUTION: External email. Ensure this message is from
>> a trusted source before clicking links/attachments.
>>
>> Hans - maybe you can clarify the rationale for not
>> allowing user groups to provide certificates?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 9:28 AM Marco Bernasocchi
>> <marco at qgis.org> wrote:
>>
>> I also agree with Tim
>>
>> Marco Bernasocchi
>>
>> QGIS.org Chair
>> OSGeo.org Board member
>> OPENGIS.ch CEO
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022, 14:47 Tim Sutton,
>> <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Probably one for Kurt and Hans to chime in
>> on. For me I don't see a problem with this
>> idea as long as all the normal criteria are met.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:50 AM Andreas
>> Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am forwarding the following request
>> from the QGIS user group Ecuador (a new
>> sustaining member from just recently):
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> Dear Andreas, I have a query.
>>
>> As a group of users can we be part of the
>> certification program?
>>
>> I reviewed the certification process and
>> registered our request, however, I
>> received an email in which they mention
>> that user groups cannot issue certificates.
>>
>> I have seen that there are user groups
>> that are in the program and therefore
>> register the request to our user group in
>> the program and be able to contribute to
>> the project.
>>
>>
>> I'll look forward for your answer
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Adrian
>>
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