[Qgis-psc] First sample outputs of telemtry work

Tue May 10 16:39:40 PDT 2022

Hi Jonathan

Thanks for your email, see comments below:

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:05 PM Jonathan Moules <
jonathan-lists at lightpear.com> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> This looks good; I love a good dashboard. Some thoughts & bugs:
>
> * Do we have telemetry for QGIS Server?
>
No - I don't think we will add this.....or at least I don't have any
current plans.

> * The numbers on "*QGIS Open events on Windows per day - last yea**r*"
> seem far too low. "*QGIS Daily Opens - last 30 days*" is showing half a
> million users a day but for windows is just ~50k a day, this despite
> windows clearly being 90+% of users per the platform chart (well, one of
> those platform charts...).
>
Only QGIS >= 3.24 reports the platform. This figure will self correct as
more people move to more recent builds.

> * Alternately, the pie-chart next to it: "*QGIS Daily Opens by Platform -
> last 30 days*" is showing 86% as being "other" platforms where "others"
> on the chart to the left of it for what appears to be trying to show the
> same thing is only a tiny percentage (< 6%?).
>
Again this is explained by the lack of platform reporting in QGIS > 3.24
(see the little info popups on each chart).

> * "*QGIS Daily Opens by Version - last 30 days*" - is showing some of the
> version numbers as integers and some as floats.
>

Yes I haven't figured this out yet....it could be bogus User Agents, custom
builds of QGIS.....something else?

> * "*QGIS Top Movers - Yesterday*" - If I sum these up I get about
> 100,000. Given the total number of users yesterday per the day-chart was
> only about 25k higher than a Monday average, I get the feeling this is
> averaging across all-time, meaning weekends will always show a low number
> and weekdays will always show a high number (as today). I'd suggest it
> should probably use the average for that-day, so it's comparing
> like-for-like.
>
Yeah this is a bit of an experiment. It compares the amount of opens
yesterday to the average daily opens across all time. I don't know how
informative it is, in future I may just remove it.

> * "*QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month*" at the top is
> wrong - it's identical to "last 30 days" to its left. Also the very bottom
> shows the number should be 3.5 million not 10 million.
>

Thanks, fixed now.

> * "*QGIS Total Number of Opens in this Current Month*" at the top says
> 499,262, but the graph (*QGIS Daily Opens - last 30 days*) shows 500,359
> for yesterday if I mouse over it.
>

I'm not sure why they are different - will need to poke around some more.

> Assuming it's SQL behind the scenes, I may be able to take a stab at it if
> you want.
>
Yes I would welcome your help. I will send you some credentials, but please
tray to avoid running any queries that place a high load on the server.

Regards

Tim

> Cheers,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 2022-04-29 22:35, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi Andreas
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 5:00 PM Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
> See also my answers to Régis for more context. More comments below. Note
> that I share the dashboard publicly so look here
>
> http://feed.qgis.org/metabase/public/dashboard/df81071d-4c75-45b8-a698-97b8649d7228
> especially at the little (i) indicators which I tried to populate with
> more defail.
>
>
>
>
>> Looks really cool - thanks for working on this! I kind of expected the
>> dominance of Windows as an operating system, but I am surprised to see one
>> particular Windows (Windows 10) take such a large share. Many government
>> agencies or companies that I know still use older Windows versions.
>>
>
> I guess MS has been working hard to make the upgrade process smoother
> which is IMHO a good thing from a security point of view.
>
>
>
>>
>> I also wonder what hides behind some of the quite large bars in the
>> category "Other"?
>>
>
> We can break them out if needed.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> When it comes to QGIS versions, I think we should better aggregate only
>> by major versions and for now ignore the minor versions. This large
>> fragmentation into minor/minor versions seems to lead to this gigantic
>> large bar of "Other".
>>
>> Yes it is on my todo list to aggregate all 3xxyy into 3xx so they show as
> one bucket.
>
>
>
>
>> Question: is there any chance to put the absolute numbers in relation
>> with the rough population size of a country. It is only natural that large
>> countries like France, Germany, USA and Brazil open QGIS  more often than
>> smaller countries. But put in relation with population size, the pattern
>> could look quite different.
>>
>
> The first map already does this. The second one shows absolute numbers per
> territory regardless of population.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> My cartography teachers told me that it is absolutely forbidden to use
>> absolute numbers in choropleth maps - ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN ! Numbers always
>> need to be put in relation with the size (area and/or population) of a
>> country.
>>
>
> He is probably right but I think the world of BI (Business Intelligence)
> has largely ignored him and the world is now littered with maps like this.
> I still think it is interesting to see the absolute numbers by country.
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your work to all people involved!
>>
>
> No problem, and again let me extend the invitation to you to go onto the
> backend and help improve the dashboard, this is just my first chicken
> scratch. I think the real value will be to see the relative breakdown of
> platforms, versions countries and the changes to these over time so we can
> identify trends. In terms of absolute numbers I am still unsure if it tells
> us a real picture of how many users we have.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 15:57, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi PSC
>>>
>>> I just wanted to give you some feedback on the work we have been doing
>>> to use anonymised telemetry data from the feed to try to get a handle on
>>> the number, geography and platform choice of our user base. There are
>>> detailed notes in the image below which should explain things. Currently it
>>> has only been running about 2 weeks so the year and month charts at the end
>>> look the same, but you can expect these to diverge over time.
>>>
>>> If you have other things you would like to report on with the available
>>> data, please pop me a note. I still want to aggregate the platform  better
>>> to lump together Win, Mac, Linux and other instead of the more granular
>>> breakdown we get right now. I will do so when I get a chance.
>>>
>>> I do not plan to make the link to the live dashboard public as I don't
>>> want to put load on the feed server, but if you wish to access the
>>> dashboard, pop me a note and I will add you.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/178003/165956926-a30c6c96-3b6b-4895-8afb-97e9ba0bd28c.png
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tim
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