[Qgis-tr] linguist vs. transifex in GUI translation

[Werner Macho]

Hi Alexandre,

Yes, only one big resource file exists, and honestly I don't want to
split it (yet) because the merge with the main file qgis_xx.ts is
difficult enough. But how often translators work on the same file at
the same time?
I think the conflicts will be minimal. Translators with transifex just
don't have to forget about uploading or closing the file properly
otherwise it would be locked for 24h.
If you want you can also collaborate on your translation file with git
somewhere and upload it to transifex once you are satisfied.
(But that would basically mean to stick to the current translation anyway)

The main problem is that if both sides are being translated one side
get overwritten by the other.. So thats why I said EITHER github OR
transifex. Merging those to files is nearly impossible in an easy not
time consuming way.

regards
Werner


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Werner,
>
> How many resource files will exist in transifex, only one? Will this mean
> that the all translations in one language will be locked by a single
> translator?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Werner Macho <werner.macho at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jacob!
>>
>> Thanks for the hint .. Going to take a look at it ..
>>
>> regards
>> Werner
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jacob Overgaard Madsen
>> <u2jacob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Werner
>> >
>> > I've started using CrowdIn for another translation project
>> > (CyanogenMod).
>> > They tested Transifex but had Unicode issues, so they moved to CrowdIn
>> > instead. Would this be an option?
>> >
>> > Jacob
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-04-16 10:04 GMT+02:00 Werner Macho <werner.macho at gmail.com>:
>> >>
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>> >> Dear Translators!
>> >>
>> >> During the last Codesprint I took the time for a few Discussions with
>> >> developers and users and took a look on transifex.
>> >>
>> >> I decided to make a TEST PHASE for transifex:
>> >>
>> >> Short conclusion:
>> >> You can EITHER use transifex OR linguist with the direct qgis_*.ts
>> >> file.
>> >> There is currently no fast/reasonable way to merge them both.
>> >>
>> >> Longer story:
>> >> The current way of translations is to checkout the source from github
>> >> (or download only the qgis_**.ts file of your language and translate
>> >> it with linguist.
>> >>
>> >> With Linguist this has a few benefits:
>> >> * If you checked out the source and probably compiled QGIS on your own
>> >> you will see the "environment" of the string you are currently
>> >> translating and will have a better feeling if the strings will fit or
>> >> not.
>> >> * You can easily work offline
>> >>
>> >> Transifex:
>> >> * Is easier to handle for beginners
>> >> * Is Web based with the possibility to download the file (but that
>> >> will lock it for other users)
>> >>
>> >> We tried a lot of things to combine these two possibilities but the
>> >> merge was always problematic.
>> >>
>> >> So I am going to leave it to the language coordinators (of a team) or
>> >> if there is only one person translating to the translator if he wants
>> >> to choose either linguist and the qgis_**.ts file _OR_ webbased
>> >> transifex.
>> >>
>> >> Remember there is only ONE source that can be included into QGIS.
>> >>
>> >> For all language-coordinators I only want to know which way you choose
>> >> so that I can make a list which translation is coming from which
>> >> source before a release.
>> >>
>> >> (direct translation in linguist means less work for me :) - with
>> >> transifex I will download the "finished" file and integrate it into
>> >> QGIS Source.
>> >>
>> >> I will "clean" the transifex page soon to only include the languages
>> >> that decided to translate with transifex.
>> >>
>> >> So lets test if we can integrate transifex this way.
>> >>
>> >> Please bear in mind that whenever you choose one translation type the
>> >> OTHER one will be overruled by your decision.
>> >>
>> >> If you decide to use transifex I can update the language to the very
>> >> latest state from github.
>> >>
>> >> I need some volunteers to test! :)
>> >> Let's hope it will work the way we want it.
>> >>
>> >> thanks a lot for all your effort in translation!
>> >>
>> >> kind regards
>> >> Werner
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