[Qgis-user] Processing plugin upgrade problem

Julian Bogdani jbogdani at gmail.com
Thu Nov 7 07:51:09 PST 2013


Hello,
I removed ~/.qgis*, ~/grass* and ~/Library/Preferences/org.qgis.qgis2.plist and reinstalled QGIS (I had already deleted QGIS.app when I read your answer)
Saga did not complain for missing dependencies, but nevertheless I could not get my Kriging analysis! The following error occurred:
Oooops! The following output layers could not be open

Grid: /var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/3aa04ea750274d479c52cb313c629fa5/GRID.tif
Variance: /var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/1274ab1f6fc541f3b93fadd225460892/VARIANCE.tif
The above files could not be opened, which probably indicates that they were not correctly produced by the executed algorithm

Checking the log information might help you see why those layers were not created as expected

This algorithm requires SAGA to be run. A test to check if SAGA is correctly installed and configured in your system has been performed, with the following result:

SAGA seems to be correctly installed and configured

These are the logs:
INFO:

[Thu Nov 07 2013 16:48:42] SAGA execution commands
SAGA execution commands
geostatistics_kriging "Ordinary Kriging" -SHAPES "/Users/jbogdani/GIS-projects/Reggio/strutture.shp" -FIELD "quote" -BVARIANCE -TARGET 0 -MODEL 0 -BLOCK -DBLOCK 100 -BLOG -NUGGET 0 -SILL 10 -RANGE 100 -LIN_B 1 -EXP_B 0.1 -POW_A 1 -POW_B 0.5 -MAXRADIUS 1000 -NPOINTS_MIN 4 -NPOINTS_MAX 20 -USER_CELL_SIZE 1 -USER_FIT_EXTENT -USER_X_EXTENT_MIN 10.625303919 -USER_X_EXTENT_MAX 10.6369031808 -USER_Y_EXTENT_MIN 44.6953856488 -USER_Y_EXTENT_MAX 44.7007540358 -GRID "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/3aa04ea750274d479c52cb313c629fa5/GRID.tif.sgrd" -VARIANCE "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/1274ab1f6fc541f3b93fadd225460892/VARIANCE.tif.sgrd"
io_gdal 1 -GRIDS "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/3aa04ea750274d479c52cb313c629fa5/GRID.tif.sgrd" -FORMAT 1 -TYPE 0 -FILE "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/3aa04ea750274d479c52cb313c629fa5/GRID.tif"
io_gdal 1 -GRIDS "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/1274ab1f6fc541f3b93fadd225460892/VARIANCE.tif.sgrd" -FORMAT 1 -TYPE 0 -FILE "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/1274ab1f6fc541f3b93fadd225460892/VARIANCE.tif"

[Thu Nov 07 2013 16:48:43] SAGA execution console output
SAGA execution console output
Unknown option 'SHAPES'
Usage: saga_cmd -POINTS <str> [-ZFIELD <str>] [-TARGET <str>] [-TQUALITY <str>] [-LOG] [-BLOCK] [-DBLOCK <str>] [-VAR_MAXDIST <str>] [-VAR_NCLASSES <num>] [-VAR_NSKIP <num>] [-VAR_MODEL <str>] [-SEARCH_RANGE <str>] [-SEARCH_RADIUS <str>] [-SEARCH_POINTS_ALL <str>] [-SEARCH_POINTS_MIN <num>] [-SEARCH_POINTS_MAX <num>] [-SEARCH_DIRECTION <str>] [-USER_BVARIANCE] [-USER_XMIN <str>] [-USER_XMAX <str>] [-USER_YMIN <str>] [-USER_YMAX <str>] [-USER_SIZE <str>] [-USER_GRID <str>] [-USER_VARIANCE <str>] [-GRID_GRID <str>] [-GRID_VARIANCE <str>]
-POINTS:<str> Points
Shapes (input)
-ZFIELD:<str> Attribute
Table field
-TARGET:<str> Target Grid
Choice
Available Choices:
[0] user defined
[1] grid
Default: 0
-TQUALITY:<str> Type of Quality Measure
Choice
Available Choices:
[0] standard deviation
[1] variance
Default: 0
-LOG Logarithmic Transformation
Boolean
Default: 0
-BLOCK Block Kriging
Boolean
Default: 0
-DBLOCK:<str> Block Size
Floating point
Minimum: 0.000000
Default: 100.000000
-VAR_MAXDIST:<str> Maximum Distance
Floating point
Default: -1.000000
-VAR_NCLASSES:<num> Lag Distance Classes
Integer
Minimum: 1
Default: 100
-VAR_NSKIP:<num> Skip
Integer
Minimum: 1
Default: 1
-VAR_MODEL:<str> Model
Text
Default: a + b * x
-SEARCH_RANGE:<str> Search Range
Choice
Available Choices:
[0] local
[1] global
Default: 0
-SEARCH_RADIUS:<str> Maximum Search Distance
Floating point
Minimum: 0.000000
Default: 1000.000000
-SEARCH_POINTS_ALL:<str>	Number of Points
Choice
Available Choices:
[0] maximum number of nearest points
[1] all points within search distance
Default: 0
-SEARCH_POINTS_MIN:<num>	Minimum
Integer
Minimum: 1
Default: 4
-SEARCH_POINTS_MAX:<num>	Maximum
Integer
Minimum: 1
Default: 20
-SEARCH_DIRECTION:<str> Search Direction
Choice
Available Choices:
[0] all directions
[1] quadrants
Default: 0
-USER_BVARIANCE Create Quality Grid
Boolean
Default: 1
-USER_XMIN:<str> Left
Floating point
Default: 0.000000
-USER_XMAX:<str> Right
Floating point
Default: 0.000000
-USER_YMIN:<str> Bottom
Floating point
Default: 0.000000
-USER_YMAX:<str> Top
Floating point
Default: 0.000000
-USER_SIZE:<str> Cellsize
Floating point
Minimum: 0.000000
Default: 1.000000
-USER_GRID:<str> Grid
Data Object (optional output)
-USER_VARIANCE:<str> Quality Measure
Data Object (optional output)
-GRID_GRID:<str> Grid
Grid (optional input)
-GRID_VARIANCE:<str> Quality Measure
Grid (optional input)
Error: executing module [Ordinary Kriging]
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library path:	/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/saga/libgeostatistics_kriging.dylib
library name:	Spatial and Geostatistics - Kriging
module name :	Ordinary Kriging
author :	O.Conrad (c) 2008
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Error: Grid file could not be opened.
Error: executing module [GDAL: Export Raster]
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library path:	/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/saga/libio_gdal.dylib
library name:	Import/Export - GDAL/OGR
module name :	GDAL: Export Raster
author :	O.Conrad (c) 2007
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Load grid: /var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/3aa04ea750274d479c52cb313c629fa5/GRID.tif.sgrd...
failed
GDAL: Export Raster: could not initialize data objects
Error: Grid file could not be opened.
Error: executing module [GDAL: Export Raster]
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library path:	/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/saga/libio_gdal.dylib
library name:	Import/Export - GDAL/OGR
module name :	GDAL: Export Raster
author :	O.Conrad (c) 2007
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Load grid: /var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/1274ab1f6fc541f3b93fadd225460892/VARIANCE.tif.sgrd...
failed
GDAL: Export Raster: could not initialize data objects


[Thu Nov 07 2013 16:48:43] SAGA execution commands
SAGA execution commands
shapes_polygons "Polygon Centroids" -POLYGONS "/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins/processing/tests/data/polygons.shp" -CENTROIDS "/var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/5b2d473f926146908e7a6f7dfa41ecee/CENTROIDS.shp"

[Thu Nov 07 2013 16:48:43] SAGA execution console output
SAGA execution console output
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library path:	/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/saga/libshapes_polygons.dylib
library name:	Shapes - Polygons
module name :	Polygon Centroids
author :	(c) 2003 by O.Conrad
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Load shapes: /Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins/processing/tests/data/polygons.shp...




Parameters


Polygons: polygons
Centroids: Centroids
Centroids for each part: no

Save shapes: /var/folders/ng/khg3w7154t14mtnkbdnpd5340000gn/T/processing/5b2d473f926146908e7a6f7dfa41ecee/CENTROIDS.shp...



ALGORITHM

[Thu Nov 07 2013 16:48:42] processing.runalg("saga:ordinarykriging","/Users/jbogdani/GIS-projects/Reggio/strutture.shp","quote",True,0,0,True,100,True,0,10,100,1,0.1,1,0.5,1000,4,20,1,True,"10.625303919,10.6369031808,44.6953856488,44.7007540358",None,None)

[Thu Nov 07 2013 16:48:43] processing.runalg("saga:polygoncentroids","/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins/processing/tests/data/polygons.shp",False,None)

-----
Julian Bogdani
jbogdani at gmail.com
http://bradypus.net





On 7 Nov 2013, at 16:31 , William Kyngesburye <woklist at kyngchaos.com> wrote:

> Deleting QGIS won't do anything, nothing directly installed will change, and installing plugins does not change anything in the QGIS.app.  Deleting .qgis2 may help.  .qgis is for QGIS 1.x and does not affect QGIS 2 at all, but it doesn't hurt to remove it to clean up.  .grass* is not used by the GRASS bundled into QGIS.  Deleting ~/Library/Preferences/org.qgis.qgis2.plist may help.
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Julian Bogdani wrote:
> 
>> I’ll try to completely remove QGIS, and delete ~/.qgis,  ~/.qgis2 and ~/.grass* folders, do a fresh install and see what happens.
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Julian Bogdani
>> jbogdani at gmail.com
>> http://bradypus.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 Nov 2013, at 16:15 , William Kyngesburye <woklist at kyngchaos.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I updated Processing, no missing dependency errors after restarting QGIS.
>>> 
>>> A couple things to check: turn on the "Keep dialog open after running algorithm" general option, you can then see more details of the problem in the log window after closing the error dialog.  The missing dependency error may be misleading.
>>> 
>>> Also make sure to uncheck the SAGA 2.0.8 compatibility option (providers/SAGA).  Victor: maybe the default should detect the system and uncheck it automatically for OS X?
>>> 
>>> So, I don't get missing dependency error, I do get this for kriging in the log:
>>> 
>>> Unknown option 'USER_FIT'
>>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Julian Bogdani wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>> SAGA should be installed with QGIS, isn’t it? I can see the saga_cmd in /Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/bin and I added this path to my .bash_profile file 
>>>> Running saga_cmd -v on my terminal I have: SAGA Version: 2.1.0
>>>> 
>>>> Closing QGIS and restarting, I found no changes, still the same error when I try to run any SAGA algorithm: Missing dependency
>>>> 
>>>> Should I install Saga separately?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7 Nov 2013, at 11:37 , Victor Olaya <volayaf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Is SAGA installed and in PATH? can you open a console and run
>>>>> saga_cmd? what do you get?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Notice that SAGA 2.1.0 is needed in mac, but the default Processing
>>>>> configuration is to have 2.0.8 compatibility enabled...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2013/11/7 Julian Bogdani <jbogdani at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Trying to run any SAGA algorithm I get this message now:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Missing dependency.This algorithm cannot be run :-(
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This algorithm requires SAGA to be run.Unfortunately, it seems that SAGA is
>>>>>> not installed in your system, or it is not correctly configured to be used
>>>>>> from QGIS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Click here to know more about how to install and configure SAGA to be used
>>>>>> with QGIS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just reinstalled GDAL and QGIS, upgraded Processing, and checked that SAGA
>>>>>> was activated (Processing > Options and Configurations > Providers > SAGA)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Julian Bogdani
>>>>>> jbogdani at gmail.com
>>>>>> http://bradypus.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2013, at 11:23 , G. Allegri <giohappy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've noticed that it happens with Windows standalone installer too but not
>>>>>> with OSGeo4W.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> giovanni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2013/11/7 Werner Macho <werner.macho at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had the same error .. It is nothing serious .. it tells you more or
>>>>>>> less that the upgrade was successful .. (because it does not find old
>>>>>>> files)
>>>>>>> just close and reopen QGIS and everything will be fine ..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> Werner
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Julian Bogdani <jbogdani at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> I’m running latest QGIS (2.0.1-3) installed from Kyngchaos repo, on
>>>>>>>> MacOS X
>>>>>>>> 10.9 (Mavericks)
>>>>>>>> trying to upgrade Processing plugin, to get advantage of this fix: Bug
>>>>>>>> #8877: Kriging from SAGA (Processing) fails to run I get the following
>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>> Any hint? Thank you
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Couldn't load plugin 'processing' from
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ['/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/plugins/processing',
>>>>>>>> '/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python',
>>>>>>>> '/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python',
>>>>>>>> '/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins',
>>>>>>>> '/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/plugins',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Frameworks/SQLite3.framework/Versions/B/Python/2.7',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Frameworks/GEOS.framework/Versions/3/Python/2.7',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/numpy-override',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Frameworks/GDAL.framework/Versions/1.10/Python/2.7/site-packages',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python27.zip',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-darwin',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-mac',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-mac/lib-scriptpackages',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-tk',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-old',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages',
>>>>>>>> '/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/Resources/python/plugins/fTools/tools']
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/qgis/utils.py",
>>>>>>>> line 182, in loadPlugin
>>>>>>>>  __import__(packageName)
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/qgis/utils.py",
>>>>>>>> line 453, in _import
>>>>>>>>  mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)
>>>>>>>> File "/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins/processing/__init__.py",
>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>> 29, in
>>>>>>>>  from processing.tools.general import *
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/qgis/utils.py",
>>>>>>>> line 453, in _import
>>>>>>>>  mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> "/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins/processing/tools/general.py",
>>>>>>>> line 29, in
>>>>>>>>  from processing.core.Processing import Processing
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/qgis/utils.py",
>>>>>>>> line 453, in _import
>>>>>>>>  mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/plugins/processing/core/Processing.py",
>>>>>>>> line 35, in
>>>>>>>>  from processing.gui.AlgorithmExecutor import AlgorithmExecutor
>>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/qgis/utils.py",
>>>>>>>> line 453, in _import
>>>>>>>>  mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)
>>>>>>>> ImportError: No module named AlgorithmExecutor
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Python version:
>>>>>>>> 2.7.5 (default, Aug 25 2013, 00:04:04)
>>>>>>>> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 5.0 (clang-500.0.68)]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> QGIS version:
>>>>>>>> 2.0.1-Dufour Dufour, f738351
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Python path:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ['/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/plugins/processing',
>>>>>>>> '/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python',
>>>>>>>> '/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python',
>>>>>>>> '/Users/jbogdani/.qgis2/python/plugins',
>>>>>>>> '/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/MacOS/../Resources/python/plugins',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Frameworks/SQLite3.framework/Versions/B/Python/2.7',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Frameworks/GEOS.framework/Versions/3/Python/2.7',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/numpy-override',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Frameworks/GDAL.framework/Versions/1.10/Python/2.7/site-packages',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python27.zip',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-darwin',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-mac',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/plat-mac/lib-scriptpackages',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-tk',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-old',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload',
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/Extras/lib/python/PyObjC',
>>>>>>>> '/Library/Python/2.7/site-packages',
>>>>>>>> '/Applications/QGIS.app/Contents/Resources/python/plugins/fTools/tools']
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> Julian Bogdani
>>>>>>>> jbogdani at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> http://bradypus.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> http://about.me/giovanniallegri
>>>>>> blog: http://blog.spaziogis.it
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>>>>>> 
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>>> http://www.kyngchaos.com/
>>> 
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>>> 
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> http://www.kyngchaos.com/
> 
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