[Qgis-user] QGIS big fail in deleting Shapes!!

Tue Jan 19 22:31:31 PST 2016

Dear Saber,

thank you very much for your answer. I understand that there are 
limitations in resources for the development. But if I have to deal with 
limitations, I should work on very important features first and leave less 
important things for later. Eg, if a BMW or Mercedes build a car that loses 
it wheels while you are driving, they should fix this first before thinking 
about new colors for the outer paint. When QGIS corrupts shape datasets 
without warning and this is known for months,I wonder why anybody works on 
new features like colored cells in tables. I'm sure that shapefile editing 
is so fundamental to a GI system that we don't have to discuss this 
in-depth.

I have very very bad experience with bugs and support of proprietary 
software, in detail it's Bentley Map (former Microstation Geographics). I 
payd thousands only to find out that the 'professional' support can't help 
users or resolve bugs in their own software. So I know that this is not a 
QGIS problem only.

In principle, I agree to support QGIS development as a sponsor. But i think 
that it makes sense only if the very fundamental things like reliabilty in 
editing the world's most used geographic data format have the highest 
priority in the project. Yet, I cannot see if this is the case.

Regards, Uwe

-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: RE: [Qgis-user] QGIS big fail in deleting Shapes!!

Datum: 2016-01-19T22:15:04+0100

Von: "Saber Razmjooei" <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk>

An: "'Uwe Fischer'" <gisfisch at t-online.de>, "'qgis-user ML'" 
<qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>

Dear Uwe,

There are some work-arounds and solutions provided within the ticket.

Also, work is underway to resolve the issue in the next LTR release. Last 
time I checked (5 minutes ago) it is still present in master.

I totally agree with you that there should be a warning to users to make 
them aware of this limitation.

In general, QGIS and other GIS/non-GIS proprietary software come with bugs. 
The reason developers haven’t fixed this bug and other bugs is due to lack 
of resources (time, money).

The project steering committee is committed to resolving the bugs and they 
have already allocated a big proportion of their income for bug fixing. You 
can see last year’s financial report hear:

http://qgis.org/en/_downloads/PublicQGISfinancialreport2014.pdf
<http://qgis.org/en/_downloads/PublicQGISfinancialreport2014.pdf>

If you think, there should be more work done to increase the quality of 
QGIS, you can get involved or contribute to the project:

http://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html
<http://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html>

Regards,

Saber

From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of 
Uwe Fischer
Sent: 19 January 2016 19:10
To: 'qgis-user ML'
Subject: [Qgis-user] QGIS big fail in deleting Shapes!!

Hello all,

today I was working on a shape dataset and I had to delete some features. 
Later I opened the shapefile in ArcMap by chance and I found that the 
features were not deleted. They still did exist. I repeated the process – 
and got the same result. Then, searching the internet, I found this 
incredible post: https://hub.qgis.org/issues/11007
<https://hub.qgis.org/issues/11007>

It is a well known problem (for 1,5 years!!) that QGIS is not able to 
delete shapes in a reliable way!! I was horrified to read this because it 
is the same as if a Word processor would not be able to delete a letter 
from a text. I cannot understand why the QGIS developers haven’t fix that 
yet. If QGIS really wants to compete with ArcMap, they should fix it as 
soon as possible. At least, the according menu entries or buttons should be 
inactivated if they don’t bring out reliable results.

My questions are:

·         is this information still up to date? I can‘t read all of the 80 
answers to the post now to get in-depth information ...

·         does anybody have information about how they are planning to 
handle this problem at the development team?

·         is there a workaround for this? Do the GRASS vector tools bring 
out reliable results?

·         are there more of those software errors in QGIS that might lead 
to huge problems in working on vector data and sharing them with others? If 
so, is there a „black list“ of things one is never allowed to use in QGIS 
if you don’t want to destroy your datasets?

Regards,

Uwe Fischer

------------------------------------------------------------------------

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 
If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 
This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the 
individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not 
disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender 
immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and 
delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient 
you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any 
action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly 
prohibited.

Whilst reasonable care has been taken to avoid virus transmission, no 
responsibility for viruses is taken and it is your responsibility to carry 
out such checks as you feel appropriate.

If this email contains a quote or offer to sell products, carry out work or 
perform services then our standard terms and conditions
<http://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/downloads/Lutra%20Consulting%20Standard%20Terms%20and%20Conditions.pdf> 
shall apply unless explicitly stated otherwise.

Saber Razmjooei and Peter Wells trading as Lutra Consulting.

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/attachments/20160120/1a3bf4f0/attachment.html>