[SAC] [OSGeo] #1793: Reqiest for FOSS4G-announce list

[Jeff McKenna]

Down 7 subscribers?  I am an admin also, there is no issue.  Because of 
my messages trying to get the LOC to be more open, the engagement all of 
a sudden and ideas flowing is wonderful - the last few days some amazing 
ideas have been brought up by outsiders.   Against my advice you created 
a private google group for private loc discussions, fine, past LOC's 
have done that, but now you also complain about the public 2017 list 
after it starts to be used?  It seems you are not used to open 
discussions, at all.  I get the impression that you want to close doors 
totally.  Your response is not even in the ticket, or to the 2017 list, 
but to the whole sac community?

I really wonder why i care so much about foss4g so much in advance each 
year, trying so hard to help, on my own time with no agenda.

Respectfully, have a nice weekend.


-jeff



On 2016-09-16 11:09 AM, Guido Stein wrote:
> Jeff & SAC members,
>
> I respectfully disagree with Jeff.
>
> Since the beginning of the heightened traffic on the list in early sept,
> we have lost 7 subscribers and are now down to 94 participants on the
> list.We lost 7% of our list so far. Some of the people who have dropped
> off are local people we know and have been trying to recruit to
> participate in the event.
>
> We, the LOC, have been pointing people to the FOSS4G2017 list to get
> information about our conference. Since this list is becoming more of a
> forum and less announcnment oriented we feel it's time to open another
> list where people can get information from the LOC (similar to how there
> is an osgeo twitter account and a FOSS4G twitter account). I am all for
> an active community discussion list, but not at the expense of loosing
> people who are interested in event information, but not the conversation
> or other OSGEO announcements.
>
> I am happy to make sure our outbound messages go to as many channels as
> needed to that all OSGEO folks are aware of this, but we need our own
> channel with our, the LOC, message is broadcast.
>
> Thank you all for your time,
>
> Guido Stein
> Co-Chair
> FOSS4G Boston 2017
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:34 AM OSGeo <trac_osgeo at osgeo.org
> <mailto:trac_osgeo at osgeo.org>> wrote:
>
>     #1793: Reqiest for FOSS4G-announce list
>     ---------------------------+--------------------
>      Reporter:  gsteinmon      |       Owner:  sac@…
>          Type:  defect         |      Status:  new
>      Priority:  critical       |   Milestone:
>     Component:  Systems Admin  |  Resolution:
>      Keywords:                 |
>     ---------------------------+--------------------
>
>     Comment (by jmckenna):
>
>      I'm not sure the benefit of yet another announce list.   A 'foss4g-
>      announce' list is actually the OSGeo-discuss list.   Have you
>     considered
>      sending all of your FOSS4G 2017 press releases directly to the OSGeo-
>      Discuss list?
>
>      For example, a typical workflow is:
>
>       - use the public foss4g2017 mailing list for discussions
>       - draft your press releases on the OSGeo wiki (see the many great
>      examples of past press releases for FOSS4G 2009 at
>      https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Press_Releases)
>       - once you have the text and wiki ready, then send your press
>     release to
>      'news_item (at) osgeo (dot) org' (that step is described at
>      http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/submit_news.html).  That news
>     item will
>      be magically posted to osgeo-announce/discuss (an no need of a separate
>      announce list)
>
>      Does that make sense?
>
>      I'll also describe this to the foss4g2017 discussion list.  As i
>     said, it
>      would be great to have more open discussions with the 2017 marketing
>      committee.
>
>      -jeff
>      President Emeritus, OSGeo
>
>     --
>     Ticket URL: <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1793#comment:1>
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