[SAC] [Urgent][Vote] Proposal for new OSGeo site hosting

[Harrison Grundy]

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> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Regina Obe <lr at pcorp.us> wrote:
> 
> Misspoke a bit not important but Atlantic.net offerings are Windows 2008-Windows 2016, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, Fedora  (no Redhat EL).  
> With data centers in USA East, EU West, Canada East, USA West, USA Central.
> 
> Speaking of hosting for temporary hosting I didn't look at the pricing of server specs we were considering for hosting and what is offered in that cost.
> 
> 
> Just for comparison
> For postgis.net which is hosted on Atlantic -- it's a 4GB Debian box, 100GB SSD, 2 vCPU, 5 TB Transfer included per month at $40/month (6 cents / hour)  + backup charge of  $2  (so $42/month for 30 days worth of backup)
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Regina Obe [mailto:lr at pcorp.us] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:14 PM
> To: 'System Administration Committee Discussion/OSGeo' <sac at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: RE: [SAC] [Urgent][Vote] Proposal for new OSGeo site hosting
> 
> 
>> Could others also give their list of virtualization experience and preferences ?
> 
>> --strk;
> 
> I'm pretty novice with Virtualization stuff but excited to become more familiar with them.
> 
> I've used numerous cloud hosting providers Virtualization offerings - Amazon EC, Droplet, Atlantic.net, GoGrid 
> 
> Of the above I like Atlantic.net the most just because they are fairly priced, provide tons of bandwidth, price per minute, have lots of OS offerings (Windows 2008-Window 2016, FreeBSD, various versions of Ubuntu, CentOS, Redhat EL) And they offer continuous backups for a small charge with a retention of 30 days.  So it's nice because you can screw up a VM badly and just restore the whole server from previous day.
> 
> I've used Virtual Box (all on Windows to play around with various Linux flavors and host old Windows VMs)
> 
> Just getting into Docker but still scared of the thing.
> 
> No familiarity with Vagrant, KVM or Jails.
> 

For providers, I've used IBM BlueMix (Softlayer), AWS, Vultr and Digital Ocean. No notable issues with any of them... the IBM offering tended to perform more consistently, but was about twice the cost of the others.

For the platforms themselves, lots of experience with jails, bhyve, and VirtualBox, plus some KVM and VMware with clients... the general experience has been that syscall or disk-io - heavy workloads suffered a performance hit on VirtualBox, but that websites and the like that were largely static content didn't suffer notably.

A thin containerization system like Docker or Jails eliminates this performance penalty, but does have some other ramifications, as scheduling and resource allocation are handled as well (or as poorly) as the underlying OS does them. This means that the machine can't be tuned quite as well as things like larger network buffers that help some workloads have to be balanced with read caching and the like that help others.

Short version... we usually use containers of some sort, but there's some planning to do first that isn't immediately obvious.

Harrison

> Thanks,
> Regina
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