[OSGeo-Standards] membership renewals

Bruce Bannerman bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com
Tue Oct 17 02:24:16 PDT 2017

Hi Gerald, Dimitris and all,

With the increasing demand for these valuable OGC Individual Memberships, it was not just Arnulf who decided to pause on the use of expired membership slots. I was also involved. Sorry.

I’d like to see us find a way to get value for our community, for OGC and for individual members who take up the membership slots.

I have noted the work that you have been doing within the OGC WPS SWG.  We need to find a way for you and others within OSGeo to publicise our efforts.

So let’s agree on how we want to move forward with the OSGeo memberships. 

If we can demonstrate real value, then that may give us grounds to revisit the memberships available.

I started a request for input into our processes at [1], but have yet to receive any input from our community.

Once we agree on how we want to work and how we want to select suitable people for any vacant positions then we can put out an expression of interest and select appropriate people.

So there will be a good opportunity for you to demonstrate the value of your work within OGC and perhaps be able to continue with an Individual Membership position.

I’ll wait for another week for input into the process that we currently use, and want to use in the future. Please get your responses in by the 24th October 2017.

Kind regards,


[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/standards/2017-September/001055.html

> On 17 Oct 2017, at 6:24 pm, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> wrote:
> Dear Arnulf,
> I have to apologize for all the noise I have made about this issue.
> My reaction is reflecting the importance that this slot is for me and most of all for the ZOO-Project.
> I do agree with what you have said Arnulf, you have done and do a great job in dealing with the slot distribution and as it become more popular, I also agree that some rules should be put in place. I did not do my duties so, it is my fault and not somebody else. I should not wait for you to chase me as you did in the past for having a report posted on the wiki.
> I am sorry for not having updated the community with the work we are handling in the WPS-2.0 SWG, I should have communicated more often about how do I use the slot.
> Sorry again Arnulf, there was nothing at all against you personally. 
> Thanks again for your great work and I will try to reapply soon.
> Best regards,
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>> Le 16 oct. 2017 à 18:13, Arnulf Christl <arnulf.christl at metaspatial.net> a écrit :
>> Jeff,
>> just to clarify, Gérald was not "removed" from OGC membership. The
>> underlying assumption somewhat bothers me. He can also reapply any time,
>> just like anybody else.
>> Most OSGeo members fail to react to OGC renewal requests and most also
>> failed to produce a single report throughout the years (including
>> yourself) although we have repeatedly asked for them.
>> Admittedly I have grown somewhat tired of chasing folks to produce some
>> kind of proof that they are actually using the OGC Individual Membership
>> slots for something useful (and then get berated if the consequence is
>> that their slot is not automagically prolonged). The OSGeo community
>> should know what their members are doing with their individual OGC
>> membership slots. It could all be so simple. In keeping with the popular
>> German saying "Do good (things) and talk about it". Hopefully you can
>> implement a better mechanism.
>> Regarding your addition to the "Selection Committee"; As I said before,
>> the "selection" process so far has been down-to-earth pragmatic: Accept
>> all. We never had an issue because there were always enough open slots.
>> If change is seen to be needed, please go ahead.
>> Process: Initially Michael Gerlek and myself were appointed by the
>> board. I have then accepted Michael's resignation and later added Bruce
>> Bannerman who had indicated interest (thanks, Bruce) and was happy to
>> help. So I guess that Bruce should acknowledges your addition to this
>> list and then the Board (copied) should formally confirm my resignation
>> and accept your addition - or come up with a different process altogether.
>> Hope this helps.
>> All the best,
>> Arnulf
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OGC_Membership#Selection_Committee
>> Am 16.10.2017 um 16:42 schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>> Hi Bruce and Arnulf,
>>> Apparently Gérald Fenoy was recently removed from the membership, but
>>> he has been very active at the TC meetings in terms of WPS evolution
>>> for the past 2 years.  I think this validates his ability to renew the
>>> OGC membership, correct?  He may have missed Barabara's renewal emails
>>> however.  Can Gérald contact Barabara directly now to renew the
>>> membership?
>>> In a bigger sense, this example may require us to examine how we track
>>> who is using the memberships (because sending an email to this
>>> Standards list isn't always the best example of using the membership -
>>> I know in my own case through the years, the membership helped me
>>> enter & follow discussions elsewhere on OGC+OSGeo, which is very
>>> important).
>>> Another question: maybe this was also the case for Dimitris'
>>> membership?  I am not sure though.  Difficult to track.  Maybe there
>>> are ideas on how to manage this.
>>> Thanks,
>>> (I am not sure if the nomination for adding me into the Selection
>>> Committee finalized)
>>> -jeff
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