[Tilecache] wms-c hosting
James McManus
jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 2 23:04:44 EST 2008
Using your standard commercial web host for serving WMS tiles is like
trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Media temple looks more
promising. Conceptually, I was thinking about doing the same thing your
described below. Render the tiles on my machine, using
tilecache_seed.py, and then uploading them to a sever with better band
width. However, I've not worked through the technical details, so thanks
for the OpenStreetMap que.
Jim
Beau Gunderson wrote:
> Oops, sorry for not replying to the list! I always manage to forget
> that that isn't the default in gmail.
>
> I think there may very well be a market for a cooperative venture in
> terms of WMS data-serving. If enough people have a need to display
> data through WMS then it become economical pretty quickly, though
> you'd have to calculate out the bandwidth usage in advance to avoid
> overage charges.
>
> Right now I have my own server though I was looking at Media Temple to
> see if I could use it to gain a little more speed as my current server
> is shared.
>
> The only problem I see is that if you use a less expensive server it
> probably won't support either SSH access or serving Python
> scripts--which is what you'd want for TileCache. The way around that
> might be to pre-render everything to a directory structure and then
> upload that to a host, and then write an adapter for OpenLayers to
> create URLs based on the directory structure instead of calls to a WMS
> compliant script. I think OpenStreetMap has code to do that, from what
> I remember offhand.
>
> On Feb 2, 2008 7:20 PM, James McManus <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com
> <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> Beau,
>
> Thanks for the information I will check it out. Write now $20/mo
> is more
> than I was thinking of paying. But I may use it in the future, if I am
> successful. I'm also looking at CoralCDN, although I've read that
> it may
> have high latency. I have my own server, but want to find ways of
> increasing its performance and make it more reliable, in case of
> increase use or unexpected outages. I'm also not sure if I want to get
> into the server business. It's nice having one to experiment
> with, but
> I would prefere not having to maintain one for costumers.
>
> Part of my business plan is to market maps to costumers who have a
> need
> for specialized maps, but are using a Web host instead of having their
> own server. Marketing maps to them would be more difficult if I
> have to
> set up a lot of specialized software on there website. Therefore, my
> plan is to just set up an Openlayers web page on their site, and to
> serve the tiles from another location.
>
> I'm thinking there are other people with similar business concepts, so
> there may be a need for a service that specializes in serving WMS
> files,
> and other services such as WFS, for small businesses. One idea
> would be
> to start a WMS Coop, where small businesses could store and serve
> there
> tiles. It could also be a clearinghouse for WMS data. Is such a
> concept
> be tossed around in the WMS community, or am I out in left field?
>
> Jim
> Beau Gunderson wrote:
> > Media Temple provides cheapish ($20/mo) hosting that you can access
> > via SSH; it's Linux-based. Optimized for MySQL and Ruby, though I
> > think Python will work as well (so you could run something like
> > TileCache... Not sure about MapServer).
> >
> > Does that meet your definition of inexpensive?
> >
> >
> > Beau
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2008 1:07 PM, James McManus <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com
> <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi - I'm looking for a free, or inexpensive, web host that
> would allow
> > me to store tiled maps, and access them using WMS from other
> > sites. I've
> > found plenty of free web host, but they all seem to
> discourage using
> > their sites to store image files, explicitly for linking to
> other
> > sites.
> > Am I reading to much into their requirement? Are there sites
> set up to
> > server the WMS-C community?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jim
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