[Tilecache] wms-c hosting

Beau Gunderson beau at beaugunderson.com
Sun Feb 3 00:24:04 EST 2008


I dug up the OSM-style directory structure explanation (with source code
snippets) here:

   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Slippy_map_tilenames

On Feb 2, 2008 10:04 PM, James McManus <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Using your standard commercial web host for serving WMS tiles is like
> trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Media temple looks more
> promising. Conceptually, I was thinking about doing the same thing your
> described below. Render the tiles on my machine, using
> tilecache_seed.py, and then uploading them to a sever with better band
> width. However, I've not worked through the technical details, so thanks
> for the OpenStreetMap que.
>
> Jim
> Beau Gunderson wrote:
> > Oops, sorry for not replying to the list! I always manage to forget
> > that that isn't the default in gmail.
> >
> > I think there may very well be a market for a cooperative venture in
> > terms of WMS data-serving. If enough people have a need to display
> > data through WMS then it become economical pretty quickly, though
> > you'd have to calculate out the bandwidth usage in advance to avoid
> > overage charges.
> >
> > Right now I have my own server though I was looking at Media Temple to
> > see if I could use it to gain a little more speed as my current server
> > is shared.
> >
> > The only problem I see is that if you use a less expensive server it
> > probably won't support either SSH access or serving Python
> > scripts--which is what you'd want for TileCache. The way around that
> > might be to pre-render everything to a directory structure and then
> > upload that to a host, and then write an adapter for OpenLayers to
> > create URLs based on the directory structure instead of calls to a WMS
> > compliant script. I think OpenStreetMap has code to do that, from what
> > I remember offhand.
> >
> > On Feb 2, 2008 7:20 PM, James McManus <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com
> > <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Beau,
> >
> >     Thanks for the information I will check it out. Write now $20/mo
> >     is more
> >     than I was thinking of paying. But I may use it in the future, if I
> am
> >     successful. I'm also looking at CoralCDN, although I've read that
> >     it may
> >     have high latency.  I have my own server, but want to find ways of
> >     increasing its performance and make it more reliable, in case of
> >     increase use or unexpected outages. I'm also not sure if I want to
> get
> >     into the server business.  It's nice having one to experiment
> >     with, but
> >     I would prefere not having to maintain one for costumers.
> >
> >     Part of my business plan is to market maps to costumers who have a
> >     need
> >     for specialized maps, but are using a Web host instead of having
> their
> >     own server.  Marketing maps to them would be more difficult if I
> >     have to
> >     set up a lot of specialized software on there website. Therefore, my
> >     plan is to just set up an Openlayers web page on their site, and to
> >     serve the tiles from another location.
> >
> >     I'm thinking there are other people with similar business concepts,
> so
> >     there may be a need for a service that specializes in serving WMS
> >     files,
> >     and other services such as WFS, for small businesses. One idea
> >     would be
> >     to start a WMS Coop, where small businesses could store and serve
> >     there
> >     tiles. It could also be a clearinghouse for WMS data. Is such a
> >     concept
> >     be tossed around in the WMS community, or am I out in left field?
> >
> >     Jim
> >     Beau Gunderson wrote:
> >     > Media Temple provides cheapish ($20/mo) hosting that you can
> access
> >     > via SSH; it's Linux-based. Optimized for MySQL and Ruby, though I
> >     > think Python will work as well (so you could run something like
> >     > TileCache... Not sure about MapServer).
> >     >
> >     > Does that meet your definition of inexpensive?
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Beau
> >     >
> >     > On Feb 1, 2008 1:07 PM, James McManus <jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com
> >     <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>
> >     > <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com <mailto:jmpmcmanus at yahoo.com>>>
> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Hi - I'm looking for a free, or inexpensive, web host that
> >     would allow
> >     >     me to store tiled maps, and access them using WMS from other
> >     >     sites. I've
> >     >     found plenty of free web host, but they all seem to
> >     discourage using
> >     >     their sites to store image files, explicitly for linking to
> >     other
> >     >     sites.
> >     >     Am I reading to much into their requirement? Are there sites
> >     set up to
> >     >     server the WMS-C community?
> >     >
> >     >     Thanks
> >     >     Jim
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