[Ubuntu] Fwd: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy

[Angelos Tzotsos]

+1 to renaming testing to experimental.

On 09/16/2016 04:23 PM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
> I'm in favor of removing testing and adding "experimental" instead.
>
> This is closer to the actual way we use the ppa.
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Randal Hale <
> rjhale at northrivergeographic.com> wrote:
>
>> from my perspective it should be (which will completely break policy on
>> several fronts)
>>
>> Testing/unstable -> Fresh/Stable/Current -> Older Releases.
>>
>> I don't know how the naming would need to be. I hesitate to suggest
>> because I'm advocating breaking with a standard on Two different Distros.
>> I apologize in Advance.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/16/2016 08:57 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> Little clarification for the non-expert lurkers like myself, are you
>>> suggesting that the naming order should be as follows?
>>>
>>>     unstable --> testing --> stable
>>>
>>> ... which would match the Debian policy found here:
>>>
>>>     https://www.debian.org/releases/
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-09-16 8:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS ML.  The
>>>> name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with combination
>>>> of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for Debian
>>>> users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming, anyway
>>>> current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.
>>>>
>>>> And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos) for
>>>> making ubuntugis project alive! Martin
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Blumentrath, Stefan <Stefan.Blumentrath at nina.no>
>>>> Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00
>>>> Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
>>>> To: Martin Landa <landa.martin at gmail.com>, GRASS developers list
>>>> <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hei Martin,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?
>>>>
>>>> As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages from a
>>>> repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system administrators
>>>> (who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand what is
>>>> behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them that
>>>> "unstable" actually means "current release"...
>>>>
>>>> Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: grass-dev [mailto:grass-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Martin Landa
>>>> Sent: 16. september 2016 13:03
>>>> To: GRASS users list <grass-user at lists.osgeo.org>; GRASS developers
>>>> list <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>> Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means that
>>>> currently is used this workflow:
>>>>
>>>> OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS Unstable -->
>>>> UbuntuGIS Stable
>>>>
>>>> What does it means for GRASS?
>>>>
>>>> 1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded to
>>>> Testing PPA [1]
>>>> 2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable [2]
>>>> 3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]
>>>>
>>>> For user who want to help with testing experimental packages: please
>>>> use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date
>>>> version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older versions).
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing
>>>> [2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable
>>>> [3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Landa
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>>>> http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa
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>>>>
>>>
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>> Randal Hale
>> North River Geographic Systems, Inc
>> http://www.northrivergeographic.com
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