[Ubuntu] Fwd: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy

[Johan Van de Wauw]

I'm in favor of removing testing and adding "experimental" instead.

This is closer to the actual way we use the ppa.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Randal Hale <
rjhale at northrivergeographic.com> wrote:

> from my perspective it should be (which will completely break policy on
> several fronts)
>
> Testing/unstable -> Fresh/Stable/Current -> Older Releases.
>
> I don't know how the naming would need to be. I hesitate to suggest
> because I'm advocating breaking with a standard on Two different Distros.
> I apologize in Advance.
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On 09/16/2016 08:57 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> Little clarification for the non-expert lurkers like myself, are you
>> suggesting that the naming order should be as follows?
>>
>>    unstable --> testing --> stable
>>
>> ... which would match the Debian policy found here:
>>
>>    https://www.debian.org/releases/
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 2016-09-16 8:37 AM, Martin Landa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I took liberty to forward opinion about PPA naming from GRASS ML.  The
>>> name for unstable PPA is simply confusing (moreover with combination
>>> of testing PPA used for experimental packages - especially for Debian
>>> users). Could be that I missed discussion about PPA naming, anyway
>>> current names do not respect real usage of PPAs in my eyes.
>>>
>>> And I want to express again big thanks (especially to Angelos) for
>>> making ubuntugis project alive! Martin
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Blumentrath, Stefan <Stefan.Blumentrath at nina.no>
>>> Date: 2016-09-16 13:12 GMT+02:00
>>> Subject: RE: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
>>> To: Martin Landa <landa.martin at gmail.com>, GRASS developers list
>>> <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hei Martin,
>>>
>>> Do you have any chance to influence the naming of the PPAs?
>>>
>>> As recently also discussed on the QGIS mailinglist, packages from a
>>> repository named "unstable" can get blocked by system administrators
>>> (who not necessarily will take the time to try to understand what is
>>> behind all applications), regardless if I as a user tell them that
>>> "unstable" actually means "current release"...
>>>
>>> Would be nice to have a more admin-friendly name there...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: grass-dev [mailto:grass-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Martin Landa
>>> Sent: 16. september 2016 13:03
>>> To: GRASS users list <grass-user at lists.osgeo.org>; GRASS developers
>>> list <grass-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> Subject: [GRASS-dev] ubuntu gis policy
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> recently ubuntugis maintainers changed their policy. This means that
>>> currently is used this workflow:
>>>
>>> OSGeoLive nightly --> UbuntuGIS Testing --> UbuntuGIS Unstable -->
>>> UbuntuGIS Stable
>>>
>>> What does it means for GRASS?
>>>
>>> 1) experimental packages (like Release Candidates) are uploaded to
>>> Testing PPA [1]
>>> 2) final version packages are uploaded to Testing and Unstable [2]
>>> 3) Stable PPA can contain older version [3]
>>>
>>> For user who want to help with testing experimental packages: please
>>> use Testing PPA otherwise use Unstable (if you prefer up-to-date
>>> version) or Stable PPA (you prefer stability - slightly older versions).
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-testing
>>> [2] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntugis-unstable
>>> [3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
>>>
>>> --
>>> Martin Landa
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>>> http://gismentors.cz/mentors/landa
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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