[ZOO-PSC] PSC meeting on 2010/04/27

Tue May 4 06:57:43 PDT 2010

Hi PSC,

Just wanted to agree with Markus on the Wiki comment:
With pgRouting we are happy if there is even a single contribution like
adding a Wiki page or fixing an error ... it doesn't happen usually ;-)
There is no need in my opinion to make it more difficult for users if they
want to contribute. With TRAc wiki you can rollback changes anyway.
There is only one exception of a wiki page pgRouting doesn't allow to edit:
it's the "home" page and the reason was that there was some spam bot adding
links to this page.

Regards,
Daniel

2010/5/4 Markus Neteler <markus.neteler at iasma.it>

> hi PSC,
>
> I have received the Skype history of the meeting, here some related
> comments. Sorry for the
> late reply but I was travelling without internet connection.
> I cite chunks of the dicussion to refresh your memories:
>
> [3:37:06 PM] Nicolas BOZON: agenda 2?
> [3:37:09 PM] Massimiliano Cannata: I would meke it more clear in the voting
>
>    process, +2 witrh the voting of the majority of all eligible members an
> no veto (-1)
> [3:37:13 PM] venkatesh_raghavan: Agenda 2: * Launch review (discuss initial
>   feedback) and next steps
> [3:38:03 PM] venkatesh_raghavan: +1 for maxi's suggestion about clarifying
> the
>   voting process,
> [3:41:09 PM] Gérald Fenoy: +1 also as for me (it seems that we have to wait
> for
>  no veto from others to follow the process correctly, nevetheless it seems
> that
>  no mention can be voted during any PSC meeting this way if anybody isn't
> able to join)
> [3:41:30 PM] S.Sekiguchi: +1 for clarifying the process, if necessary
> [3:43:38 PM] venkatesh_raghavan: Maxi, can you hack the guideline to
> clarify the
>  voting issue, and we can approve corrections by voting on PSC ML.
> [3:44:08 PM] Massimiliano Cannata: ok, i will
>
> --->> Suggestion: take a look at RFC3 of GRASS which has been thought
>         through quite a bit:
>         http://download.osgeo.org/grass/grass6_progman/rfc/rfc3_psc.html
>
>
> [3:59:28 PM] venkatesh_raghavan: Any suggestions for svn, wiki/trac access
> by
>  new members?
> [3:59:55 PM] Nicolas BOZON: i think that we must welcome people that know
> the
>  code and have good remarks
> [4:00:29 PM] Gérald Fenoy: yes I would appriciate your comments as I can't
>  understand for instance how somebody outside the PSC can modify a wiki
> page
>  writen by a PSC memebr
> [4:00:57 PM] venkatesh_raghavan: Documentation etc. also as important, I
> think.
> [4:01:07 PM] Gérald Fenoy: I think that we have to make some specific wiki
>  section writable only by PSC memebrs
>
> -->> I have been using/managing Wikis for > 6 years. I am not aware of any
> case that the
>    GRASS PSC Wiki pages or OSGeo committee main pages have been modified in
>    an undesired way by non-PSC/non-committee members.
>    Suggestion: keep it simple. Permission management is overkill and not
> needed
>     since you can rollback changes easily. Just put a disclaimer on top of
> such pages
>     that they are reserved for editing by the PSC.
>
>
> [4:02:16 PM] Gérald Fenoy: what about defining a process of acceptance for
> new
> documentation proposal from the community ?
>
> -->> this is AGAINST any concept of a Wiki ;-) and IMHO an obstacle for
> fast progress.
>        I got the OSGeo gadget for having more than 5000 Wiki edits,
> especially by making
>        the garbage collector. And there was nothing bad, just incomplete
> info. If you put
>        obstacles in place, then you don't even obtain text snippets and all
> the work remains
>        to be done by us....
>
>
> [4:28:43 PM] venkatesh_raghavan: We can generate somekind of webstats for
> PSC
> members maybe.
> [4:29:40 PM] Massimiliano Cannata: yes, it is interesting to see viewed
> pages,
> downloads, etc..
>
> --> awstats, trac stats, like
>   http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TicketStatsMacro
>   http://grass.osgeo.org/logs-bin/awstats.pl?config=grass.osgeo.org
>
> Cheers
> Markus
>
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