[Board] Minutes from 12 November meeting
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Nov 18 03:34:52 PST 2015
I'm not questioning board members being re-reimbursed for expenses
incurred while carrying out board duties.
Rather, I'm questioning whether board members should be asked to carry
out such duties in the first place.
It comes back to the question of whether we want OSGeo to be a high
capital or low capital organisation.
In a low capital organisation, expenses are kept to a minimum. This can
be achieved by:
1. Using a local OSGeo Advocate to present OSGeo messages instead of
paying for a board member or president to fly half way around the world
to give the same presentation.
2. Make use of skype, email, hangouts, IRC etc for communication instead
of face-to-face meetings.
This means that OSGeo doesn't need to earn money, which is very liberating.
It means there is less pressure on FOSS4G to make a profit (to sustain
OSGeo), which in turn allows FOSS4G events to be cheaper and more
assessable.
It allows money to be applied to other outreach activities instead.
On 18/11/2015 10:05 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
> While I was happy to vote for covering travel costs - I did not expect
> to use them myself as I will be attending the event.
>
> The general theme (and the reason for me voting +1) is that if we are
> expecting an OSGeo member to operate in an official capacity on behalf
> of the foundation I would like OSGeo be in position to reimburse the
> individual for additional costs incurred.
>
> I believe this is consistent with covering Jeff's cost to attend the
> upcoming Moscow event (we are asking Jeff to represent the foundation
> in an official capacity).
>
> This is nothing specific about Jeff or his role as our president -
> instead it is the boards request to have a representative in an
> official capacity present at the event. I feel a board member or
> charter member may be able to fulfill that role.
>
> I expect this (and any future board) to keep the current budget in
> mind and balance the need for members to act in an official capacity
> in mind when planing or approving such activities.
>
> To bring this back to the current example of foss4g 2016 bonn:
> * If I am asked to attend a face to face meeting, I may ask that an
> addition day of accommodation be covered, since I am otherwise
> attending that event.
> * It may not make sense to schedule a face to face meeting (depending
> on board priorities and budget looks like)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 17 November 2015 at 00:41, Massimiliano Cannata
> <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I was responsible for the motion after the above cited discussions.
> My motivation was a bit provocative (and I expected some
> discussion that didn't happen at all with my great disappointment)
> but at the same time I wanted to give equity: or everybody can be
> reimbursed or nobody, this is my point.
>
> I'm fine with both options but not with a gray zone where someone
> get reimbursed and/or free conference admission and someone not.
>
> I agree, at this point this is a question for the charter members.
>
> Maxi
>
>
> 2015-11-17 7:32 GMT+01:00 Jeroen Ticheler
> <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net <mailto:jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net>>:
>
> Dear Cameron, dear board
> I agree with Cameron's observation on this. It would be good
> to refine the motion and be explicit on what is and what is
> not funded by OSGeo. And if there is a substantial budget
> involved (>4000$ per year including conference fee discounts
> etc) I think this needs broader support from the community,
> possibly by asking charter members for their vote of support.
> Cheers,
> Jeroen
>
> > Op 16 nov. 2015 om 20:07 heeft Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 17/11/2015 3:58 am, Sanghee Shin wrote:
> >> 2. MOTION: OSGeo to pay for travel and arrangements at
> FOSS4G Bonn for all board members if a F2F board meeting is
> planned for there
> >
> > OSGeo Board,
> > Is this the second f2f meeting within a year that the OSGeo
> board is proposing to be paid to attend?
> > Also is this the first OSGeo Board who would be all
> sponsored to attend a FOSS4G event?
> >
> > I'm concerned that this is a deviation from prior OSGeo
> principles, and looks externally to be self-serving.
> > I suspect that travel costs would become a reasonable
> percentage of OSGeo's budget should regular board travel be
> approved.
> > As such, I suggest it should be a line item in the OSGeo
> Vision as well as in the OSGeo budget. (I assume the current
> budget's travel allowance isn't sufficient to cover 2 board
> international trips?)
> >
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