[Board] Diversity/Inclusiveness

[Cameron Shorter]

I agree with Jeff, better to restart the CoC committee rather than 
create something new. You retain history more easily.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 3/3/18 12:54 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> María I am hesitant to force anyone into an existing group or 
> committee, if they feel that a new group is needed at OSGeo.  Maybe 
> the CoC team (which is actually still working, in fact Kristin just 
> promoted OSGeo's CoC to the OSM-diversity-talk mailing list yesterday) 
> could keep as-is (as there is a functional mailing list, 
> private/reporting mechanism) but work closely with this new OSGeo 
> diversity group.  It is up to you really.
>
> I thoroughly respect the efforts of Kristin Bott driving this (along 
> with Camille Acey initially) for OSGeo, and I am sure that she would 
> be happy if you sent some ideas (for a new group, or how your plan 
> works with the OSGeo code of conduct or what is missing) to the 
> coc-discuss list.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2018-03-02 9:27 AM, María Arias de Reyna wrote:
>> In fact, the last "news" from the committee are that they don't have 
>> enough volunteers/resources in 2015:
>>
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/coc-discuss/2015-December/000035.html
>>
>> Unless there is something more recent that I can't find.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:22 PM, María Arias de Reyna 
>> <delawen at gmail.com <mailto:delawen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I thought this committee was already closed, as I haven't seen any
>>     activity recently. Also, I can't find the list of members or how
>>     they are chosen.
>>
>>     If it is still working, I would include them, sure. But we have to
>>     make sure we have a diverse team writing the guidelines. There are
>>     things that if you haven't experience yourself, it is difficult to
>>     address. For example, I have only experienced soft racism and I have
>>     no idea about transexual experience. I wouldn't dare to write about
>>     that parts.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Could this be a collaboration within the existing code of
>>         conduct committee? Rather than trip up volunteers we already
>>         have who have expressed passion towards supporting diversity?
>>         On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:51 AM María Arias de Reyna
>>         <delawen at gmail.com <mailto:delawen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi,
>>
>>             On yesterday's board meeting we talked (briefly) about the
>>             problem with diversity and inclusiveness in OSGeo and
>>             FOSS4G. We intend to talk more about this in Bonn:
>>
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01#Inclusiveness_guidelines_for_conferences
>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01#Inclusiveness_guidelines_for_conferences>
>>
>>             The proposal that has been made for this  (thanks Jeff and
>>             others*) is:
>>
>>               * Create a working group for diversity inside OSGeo
>>               * Create guidelilnes for conferences
>>               * Review CoC
>>
>>             Although I already expressed my fear of creating this
>>             working group before next FOSS4G, as members of that group
>>             will be sensitively targeted just by being part of it.
>>
>>             I am still following OSM advancements on this and maybe we
>>             can take part of their work for us:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct>
>>
>>             Some of the GeoChicas (the spanish women group in OSM)
>>             already expressed their desire to work with us and help.
>>
>>             I know that the part of reviewing the CoC may be sensitive
>>             too, but most of the CoC written in the past decade are very
>>             open to ambiguities and do a lot of cargo culting and
>>             focuses on effects, not on causes. I want to make sure our
>>             CoC does not follow that and is really useful. If you
>>             compare it with the CoC OSM is writing, you can see there
>>             are many differences. At this point I am not sure what parts
>>             should be rewritten, that's why I want a working group on 
>> that.
>>
>>             Cheers,
>>             María.
>>
>>             * not sure to what extent they want their names here
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>>         --         --
>>         Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>>
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