[OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

Wed Dec 27 09:43:02 PST 2023

Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
nabble used to? Is searchable etc …

But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers -
so it is one way communication.

And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to
ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting
yet more email).
--
Jody Garnett

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky at erosion.dev> wrote:

> Hi Jody
>
> We are offering options
>
> Before:
> Use mailing list
>
> After:
> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/
> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>
>
> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]  (Use
> discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
> mailing list)
> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list
> and see the archives also on discourse)
> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was
> created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing
> list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/)
>
> [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
> [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
> [3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1
> [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign up
>> form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is being
>> offered.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm also unclear on what is going on.  It looks like discourse options
>>> are being added.  This raises questions about mailing lists.  1. Are
>>> mailing lists going away?  2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing
>>> list and not add dicourse?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Eli
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Vicky
>>> Vergara via Discuss <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM
>>> *To:* OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
>>>
>>> Hi Jody,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Vicky,
>>>
>>> Is there any more information on what is being offered here?
>>>
>>> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a
>>> category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.
>>>
>>>
>>> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback.
>>> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails
>>> received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.
>>> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on
>>> the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list.
>>> The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a
>>> mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>> When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and
>>> they can log in using ldap, or github account.
>>> If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to
>>> the person that logged in.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss <
>>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse,
>>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse
>>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
>>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list
>>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list
>>>
>>> A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including
>>> private mailing lists):
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo
>>>
>>> You need to open a ticket to have the work done.
>>> Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vicky Vergara
>>>
>>> Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse:
>>>
>>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket
>>> 3063)
>>> +
>>> Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063
>>>
>>> Created the following discourse category
>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
>>> And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed:
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/
>>> Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be
>>> received on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of
>>> january.
>>> Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org
>>>
>>> Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
>>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062
>>> Created the following discourse category
>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
>>> The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing
>>> list
>>> emails continue to be sent to sac at lists.osgeo.org
>>> Replies can be done
>>>
>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara
>>> But they will no be reflected on the mailing list
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html
>>>
>>> Example: of category without mailing list
>>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066
>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/osgeolive/osgeolive-docs/8
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
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