[OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

Thu Dec 28 06:57:47 PST 2023

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
> nabble used to? Is searchable etc …
>
> I don't know the details of how discourse works,

> But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers -
> so it is one way communication.
>
https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990

> And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to
> ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting
> yet more email).
>
Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory for
Q&A

> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky at erosion.dev> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jody
>>
>> We are offering options
>>
>> Before:
>> Use mailing list
>>
>> After:
>> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/
>> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
>> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>>
>>
>> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]
>> (Use discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
>> mailing list)
>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list
>> and see the archives also on discourse)
>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3]
>> was created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing
>> list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/)
>>
>> [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
>> [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
>> [3]
>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1
>> [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/
>>
>> Regards
>> Vicky
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign
>>> up form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is
>>> being offered.
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm also unclear on what is going on.  It looks like discourse options
>>>> are being added.  This raises questions about mailing lists.  1. Are
>>>> mailing lists going away?  2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing
>>>> list and not add dicourse?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Eli
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Vicky
>>>> Vergara via Discuss <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM
>>>> *To:* OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jody,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Vicky,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any more information on what is being offered here?
>>>>
>>>> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a
>>>> category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback.
>>>> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails
>>>> received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.
>>>> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown
>>>> on the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list.
>>>> The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a
>>>> mailing list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users",
>>>> and they can log in using ldap, or github account.
>>>> If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to
>>>> the person that logged in.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Vicky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss <
>>>> discuss at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse,
>>>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse
>>>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
>>>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list
>>>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list
>>>>
>>>> A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including
>>>> private mailing lists):
>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo
>>>>
>>>> You need to open a ticket to have the work done.
>>>> Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Vicky Vergara
>>>>
>>>> Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse:
>>>>
>>>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket
>>>> 3063)
>>>> +
>>>> Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063
>>>>
>>>> Created the following discourse category
>>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
>>>> And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed:
>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/
>>>> Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be
>>>> received on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of
>>>> january.
>>>> Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org
>>>>
>>>> Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
>>>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062
>>>> Created the following discourse category
>>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
>>>> The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing
>>>> list
>>>> emails continue to be sent to sac at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> Replies can be done
>>>>
>>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara
>>>> But they will no be reflected on the mailing list
>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html
>>>>
>>>> Example: of category without mailing list
>>>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066
>>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/osgeolive/osgeolive-docs/8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss mailing list
>>>> Discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>
>>>>
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