[GRASS-PSC] First draft of call for student grants

[Huidae Cho]

Helena,

Agreed. That is what I was thinking about in the other email. The only
problem I can see is will there be enough contributions when they are not
guaranteed to be rewarded *after* all their work? Work done first, compete
for a prize later vs. Compete for a grant and work done later. Still, I
think the prize idea is definitely worth considering.

Best,
Huidae


On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:09 AM Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu> wrote:

> Dear all - I don’t have time right now to write more but as I was reading
> the document and thinking about all the pitfalls of paying for work
> I was wondering whether we should follow an example from geoforall and do
> it as award / prize for the work done -
> e.g. Annual award for the best student contribution to GRASS (no invoices
> needed, but PSC will need to evaluate the contributions
> and let students know about the opportunity).
>
> Feel free to ignore this suggestion - it just came to mind as Geoforall is
> launching "Pitch your research competition, where students will have 5
> minutes to talk about their project showcasing open source, open data or
> open standards.” with cash prizes from the OSGeo budget.
>
> Helena
>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Moritz Lennert <
> mlennert at club.worldonline.be> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Vero, for your feedback (and Vaclav for the direct change) !
> >
> > Here are some comments/replies.
> >
> > Am 15.11.2021 21:35 schrieb Veronica Andreo:
> >> This is great Moritz! Thanks for taking the lead on this and drafting
> >> the call!
> >> Here are my comments/questions:
> >> - _"be eligible to work in the country in which they reside" -->
> >> _maybe this is related to them having a tax number or bank account, no
> >> idea.
> >
> > I think it is more linked to the fact that GSoC pays for a student job,
> no ? Or is it also considered a grant ?
> > Maybe we can leave this out and only add it in the future if the issue
> arises. But IANAL.
> >
> >> Questions might be if the money goes directly from OSGeo to the
> >> student, won't OSGeo need an invoice? If we pay directly from our bank
> >> account, do we need it?
> >
> > If necessary we can provide a standard form for requesting the payment
> of the grant which function as invoice.
> >
> >> - The agreement of a GRASS GIS core developer to mentor the student's
> >> work --> Maybe no need to be core, perhaps no need to be dev at all if
> >> the student proposes to create educational material. In any case, some
> >> sort of mentor would be desired in my opinion.
> >
> > Agreed.
> > I changed to "an active member of the GRASS GIS community". Not sure how
> to formulate it differently to ensure inclusion of all categories.
> >
> >> - In the nature of the grant section, should we set a maximum
> >> duration, eg. 2 months or so?
> >
> > Done
> >
> >> - In the how to apply section: email with proof of eligibility should
> >> be sent to some of us privately I think for data privacy reasons (?).
> >
> > Yes, that's why I put XYZ as the address. Maybe we can create an @
> osgeo.org address for this ?
> >
> >> Would be nice to ask them to introduce themselves to the community
> >> too, no? Probably once accepted.
> >
> > Yes, but not sure this needs to be in the grant procedure description.
> >
> >> - Approval: 2 weeks sound better to me
> >
> > ok, done
> >
> >> - Final report: the report in the wiki seems fine to me, could also be
> >> the trac wiki where all the GSoC reports live too.
> >
> > I agree, but this raises the more fundamental question whether in the
> long run we want to continue with two wikis, especially with the trac wiki,
> knowing that we do not use trac for anything else anymore.
> >
> >> The final report
> >> could be sent to grass-dev and psc mailing lists.
> >
> > Added.
> >
> > Moritz
> >
> >
> >> El lun, 15 nov 2021 a las 13:07, Moritz Lennert
> >> (<mlennert at club.worldonline.be>) escribió:
> >>> Dear all,
> >>> Following the discussions at today's PSC I've written a first draft
> >>> of a
> >>> call for student grants:
> >>> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants [1].
> >>> Several points still need clarification (see comments in
> >>> [brackets]).
> >>> Feel free to edit as you see necessary.
> >>> If we really want to go forward with this still before Christmas,
> >>> then
> >>> we need to have the final version ready by end of next week the
> >>> latest.
> >>> Enjoy your weekend !
> >>> Moritz
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> >> [1] https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants
> >> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc
> >
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> Helena Mitasova
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> Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
> Associate director and faculty fellow at the Center for Geospatial
> Analytics
> North Carolina State University
> Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
> hmitaso at ncsu.edu
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