[Incubator] motion: Accept rasdaman into the OSGeo Community program

[Baumann, Peter]

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Dear Dimitris & all,

you are making a good point in asking "what's different now, will it run better this time". Indeed, OSGeo and us earlier disagreed on governance issues. After a 6 years process in the end the showstopper was about my veto rights in the steering committee, ie: "design by committee" vs "design by competence" as we see it: while we always have been open to discussion and accepting advice from anybody we would not allow majority voting on strategies, irrespective of competence.

Partly based on this dispute (I believe) OSGeo decided to introduce OSGeo Community projects which relax corresponding rules. This way a bridge was built to incorporate further projects with more variety in their governance. Personally, I feel this is a great move forward towards a more inclusive view, accepting the plurality and thus allowing more open-source projects to be represented by OSGeo. I always felt that basically we are rowing the same boat, sharing similar ideals to a large extent. This is why we will be happy to join OSGeo under this regime should the vote result in an adoption

my 2 cents,

Peter


On 18.10.19 09:57, Pham Huu, Bang wrote:
> > Dear Dimitris Kotzinos and all, > > Please note that we (rasdaman project) is trying to be accepted as OSGEO Community project (this is a new program as far as I know: https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/) not a full OSGEO project as a few years ago. > > > Hence, the conditions to be accepted are much less strict and I don't think there will be conflicts here as years ago which led to arguments and disagreements about "open community with transparent communication and decision making process". > > > > Thank you for your understanding. > > Best regards, > > > > On 10/18/19 9:34 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> if my memory serves me well (not certain anymore :-)), rasdaman had >> applied some years ago to graduate as an OSGEO project and when >> discussions produced a lot of heated arguments and disagreements, the >> project withdrew from the OSGEO family of projects. >> What I would like to inquire is whether things have changed and now we >> have some guarantees that the project is interested to progress to >> graduation. >> >> Please note that this is a well-intended message: I would be very happy >> to have rasdaman back into OSGEO and to support it in any way possible; >> I consider it a well done project. But I would like to avoid the >> previous situation of just repeating itself. >> >> Thanks for your consideration, >> Best regards, >> >> Dimitris Kotzinos >> _______________________________________________ >> Incubator mailing list >> Incubator at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:Incubator at lists.osgeo.org> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator > > _______________________________________________ > Incubator mailing list > Incubator at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:Incubator at lists.osgeo.org> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator - --
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