[Marketing] marketing brochure

Mon Dec 2 21:08:32 PST 2019

I've got a spare Creative Cloud license floating around that we'd be happy to donate to this for a few months, let me know if that would be useful.

--- Harrison 

On 3 December 2019 12:37:32 PM SGT, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>I should also point out we have never merged in the work from Nicolas.
>It
>is sitting in a PR:
>https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/pulls (waiting for review comments to be
>addressed).
>
>I should also point out that my enthusiasm is for seeing things
>finished
>(and have no personal stake in doing it myself). Indeed I am leaning
>towards paying getinteractive a time and materials contract for next
>year
>(say 40 hours) to use as needed for graphic design work.
>
>I also think we should put a RFP to our community to provide map
>integration for members/local chapters/GeoForAll (right now we hide our
>maps in a filter drop down). Absolutely nobody has volunteered on this
>one
>...
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 4:24 AM adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> My preference would be:
>>
>> - use some indesign expertise (either buy a license and let Jody go
>for it
>> or hire someone) to unpack .indd files to something else (EPS? SVG?
>> preferences?) which is more transportable, even if that means losing
>some
>> adobe-specific pizzaz in the design process
>>
>> - deploy some budget to help with whatever updates / refreshes are
>needed,
>> providing any additional guidance on design principles we require to
>> incorporate Nicolas’ icon set wherever we should do so, with the
>> understanding that the end result should be useful across the
>> Inkscape/Scribus *and* Adobe platforms (woohoo! design
>interoperability!
>> can it be done? I hope so!)
>>
>> …with a view to:
>> - deploying Jody’s enthusiasm, experience and wisdom - even if it is
>to
>> completely disagree with my thoughts above :)
>> - making it as easy as possible for future us to pick up and carry on
>> later.
>>
>> …and having said that, I’ll help Jody any way I can without needing
>an
>> Adobe suite licence.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 13:55, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Nice, I am not against Scribus and would you personally be willing
>to try
>>> again.
>>>
>>>  The last challenge is harder, I would like us as volunteers to be
>able
>>> to hire a graphics designer to get stuff done faster for regional
>events
>>> and projects.
>>>
>>> Personally I think the website is most important, and printing
>things out
>>> is hopefully going away. But it does make an impression, and that
>>> impression helps break down “open source is not professional”
>hesitation
>>> allowing us to reach more folks.
>>>
>>> I am aware how silly it is we need to work so hard to give software
>away.
>>> Still it makes people so happy it is worth a bit of our time.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:45 AM adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Looks like inDesign may need to be part of the process, scribus
>cannot
>>>> import the .indd files in marketing collateral [1], and the PDFs in
>print
>>>> [2] don’t open with fonts as editable fonts (although the text can
>be
>>>> replaced easily enough).
>>>>
>>>> Both Scribus and Inkscape have moved a long way since 2017. For my
>own
>>>> two cents I find inDesign and illustrator at least as painful to
>use, and
>>>> you have to then pay for them also ;) - so I haven’t used them in a
>very
>>>> long time.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
>https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/marketing/collateral/brochure
>>>> [2] https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/marketing/print
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 04:35, Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
><astrid_emde at osgeo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jody,
>>>>>
>>>>> great that you have more time now and great that you would like to
>work
>>>>> on the flyer/brochure.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would make sense to update the brochure and make ist
>sustainable (do
>>>>> not list sponsors) so we can print it and us that version for
>quite
>>>>> while.
>>>>> Although I would prefer a lighter weight version of the OSGeo
>brochure.
>>>>>
>>>>> It also is great if you can update some of the one-page flyer too.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looked like with some files scribus did not work, so I am fine
>if
>>>>> you
>>>>> do it with inDesign. Maybe you leave the scribus files that work
>as
>>>>> they
>>>>> are.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could choose the license that you think make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Astrid
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 02.12.2019 18:25 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>>>>> > Brian I had a terrible couple of weeks before foss4g boston
>using
>>>>> > scribus for the one page handouts. The teams produces results
>that
>>>>> > were visually inconsistent and their work had to be redone so
>that all
>>>>> > the output had the logos and so on in a consistent fashion.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > When you say Scribus get's good reviews ... can I ask from
>where? It
>>>>> > certainly works but it honestly reminded me of desktop
>publishing
>>>>> > solutions on an an Amiga 4000.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We can go through some old email where Antia Graser worked
>really hard
>>>>> > evaluating options and getting scribus to work.  We also had our
>>>>> > graphics designer give it a go but it was too slow/frustrating
>given
>>>>> > the timeframe.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/marketing/2017-September/003967.html
>>>>> > [2]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The other option that folks discussed in that thread was
>InkScape,
>>>>> > however it was producing SVG output that could not be used in
>the
>>>>> > browsers due to a difference in SVG standard support. Sadly at
>the
>>>>> > time it was also producing PDF output inconsistently.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Jody Garnett
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 16:07, Brian M Hamlin
><maplabs at light42.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi - Here in California/USA Adobe products are certainly very
>>>>> >> popular, and I use them myself (old purchase). However, the
>FOSS
>>>>> >> desktop publishing suite Scribus also gets good reviews. Is it
>>>>> >> truly the only forward, to use inDesign for the brochures? The
>>>>> >> fonts can be used in any case.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> cheers --Brian
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 12/2/19 6:39 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> I have been resisting taking on any more activities until my
>term
>>>>> >>> as Director was up. With today's announcement I have some more
>>>>> >>> capacity :)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Astrid you mentioned wanted to update the osgeo brochure last
>>>>> >>> year, and we did not have any members available with access to
>>>>> >>> InDesign. The economics of using scribus did not work out for
>us
>>>>> >>> (when we had access to a graphic designer it was better to use
>a
>>>>> >>> WYIWYG tool to take advantage of their training).
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I would be willing to do the update, if the marketing
>committee
>>>>> >>> was able to provide an InDesign license. In the past I
>purchased
>>>>> >>> proprietary fonts when they were mandated by our logo design,
>>>>> >>> however InDesign is a more expensive commitment.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> a) InDesign US$239.88/yr
>>>>> >>> b) InDesign US$31.49/mo, only subscribe when needed?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Another good approach is:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> c) Contact GetInteractive and set up a time and materials
>contract
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> d) Ask on our mailing list if anyone else has access to
>InDesign
>>>>> >>> and would be willing to do the work.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Please reply with your preference, and any discussion. I feel
>we
>>>>> >>> should make a motion this calendar year while we have
>marketing
>>>>> >>> budget to work with.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> aside: I was able to make use of scribus for some of our one
>page
>>>>> >>> handouts, porting content from a number of projects for a
>>>>> >>> consistent appearance. It was a very frustrating learning
>curve,
>>>>> >>> but I think I can safely update these now.
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> Jody Garnett
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> Marketing mailing list
>>>>> >>> Marketing at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing [1]
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Links:
>>>>> > ------
>>>>> > [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>>>>> > [2]
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/marketing/2017-September/003967.html
>>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Adam Steer
>>>> http://spatialised.net
>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Adam_Steer
>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/adamsteer
>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0046-7236
>>>> +61 427 091 712 ::  @adamdsteer
>>>>
>>>> Suits are bad for business:
>>>> http://www.spatialised.net/business-penguins/
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>>> --
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Adam Steer
>> http://spatialised.net
>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Adam_Steer
>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/adamsteer
>> http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0046-7236
>> +61 427 091 712 ::  @adamdsteer
>>
>> Suits are bad for business:
>http://www.spatialised.net/business-penguins/
>>
>-- 
>--
>Jody Garnett

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