Fwd: Re: [Live-demo] What common datasets do we need?

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu May 26 17:17:20 PDT 2011


Comments from Nathan Kelso, ...

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Subject: 	Re: [Live-demo] What common datasets do we need?
Date: 	Thu, 26 May 2011 20:13:33 -0400
From: 	Nathaniel Kelso <nvkelso at gmail.com>
To: 	Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>



I'll have a deeper read. The basic approach NE takes is to have scale
sets. I would suggest also some more local data than natural earth,
the problem is always "I don't know this place. It's not similar to
where I live." three other scales, 20k, 250k, and 1,000k are the next
logical steps. OSM at 20k. DCW at 1,000k, perhaps some US national
atlas at 1:250k.

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On May 26, 2011, at 20:05, Cameron Shorter<cameron.shorter at gmail.com>  wrote:

>  Bob, Nathan, and others,
>
>  I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the suitability of Simon's datasets, described below, for use as a common OSGeo-Live dataset.
>
>  On 27/05/11 09:05, Simon Cropper wrote:
>>  On 27/05/11 08:36, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>  On 27/05/11 07:27, Bob Basques wrote:
>>>>  Personally I believe there needs to be a set of data for various
>>>>  levels of resolution as a global set, and I don't see the GE datasets
>>>>  filling this need entirely (yet), Maybe the GeoMoose datasets can be
>>>>  used in some of this capacity. The reason I thought of putting them
>>>>  into their own containers (folders) was to provide a flexibility for
>>>>  others to use if they so desired. They can also be easily removed in
>>>>  the future. I'm also planning on building separate Viewers for each,
>>>>  but I can also build a composite viewer. Each of these using a single
>>>>  frontend jump page (index.html) to get to.
>>>
>>>  Bob,
>>>  If the Natural Earth dataset doesn't provide data in the right format to
>>>  highlight GeoMoose examples, then we should probably source another
>>>  common dataset which can be used by multiple applications.
>>>  I remember Simon Cropper had similar comments a while back when he was
>>>  creating tutorials for gvsig.
>>>
>>>  So my question is, what dataset should we provide? (The data should be
>>>  suitably licenced, either public domain as per Natural Earth, or another
>>>  open licence like Creative Commons).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  Hi Guys,
>>
>>  1. I am not part of the live-demo at list.osgeo.org group so not sure it will get to the list so you may wish to repost this response there.
>>  2. I have collated data suitable for use on the live-demo CD either to be distributed with it or referenced and downloaded on demand as the current dataset is done. All the datasets collated are CC-BY-SA and are at a resolution that most Natural Resource Managers in Australia use. Check out this description of what is available here....
>>
>>  http://gis.fossworkflowguides.com/#data
>>
>>  3. Cameron, from a users point of view I believe that most people trialling the software on the live-demo-CD want to play using information at a resolution they would typically encounter. In my experience this involves local to occasionally regional datasets. It is rare that people use continental or global datasets. Things like what I have provided and some of the USA sites with high resolution imagery and vector data are ideal.
>>
>
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