[postgis-users] Imsemu and feature service

Fri Apr 26 09:14:09 PDT 2002

Actually I'm pretty happy with mapserver too and the fact that I can use it
to query MapInfo data directly pretty seamlessly is great - if it integrated
directly from the mapinfo desktop would be even better.  Mapserv is so much
simpler to set up than ArcGIS.  But people here have spent hundreds of
thousands of dollars on ArcGIS, ESRI consulting etc. and trying to convince
them to spend a little less on those things and a little more on great open
source projects such as mapserve, PostGIS, Vision for New York WFS etc. is
surprisingly difficult.  Even more so for me since I come from a programming
background rather than a GIS background. It's almost as if people here have
this mindset that if it doesn't cost $1 million dollars it must not be as
good as that cardboard box I spent over there that no one knows how to use
but cost $1 million dollars to setup.  The whole mindset just dumbfounds me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Mitchell [mailto:TMitchell at lignum.com]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:37 AM
To: Obe, Regina DND\MIS
Subject: RE: [postgis-users] Imsemu and feature service

Regina,
I'm in a similar situation here in the forestry in Canada.  I've been
testing our mapserver and postgis in our environment.  I think having a
simple mapserver would get all the data you mentioned at least
view/queryable.  Are you already pursuing that?  I think OGR supports all
the formats you listed there.  But, man, if someone gets a good WFS client
together, or an intermediate "layer" like OGR that would allow applications
like Mapinfo access the data transparently, then we could all move a head a
bit more on this eh?

Tyler

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Paul,

How much funding would you need to have to develop a full ArcIMS emulator?

A lot of the people here use ArcIMS and I am hoping to convince them that
postgis would be a suitable repository for centralizing all the data they
want to share with other city departments.  It's a major undertaking and
even more so given the tighting of federal funding - (needs assessment we
should have rapped up soon and inventory meta data survey we should have
done soon in the next month or so).  Anyrate if this goes thru, I may be
able to consolidate some of the different departmental fundings and
convince
them to expend some on Refractions work.

Currently the city of boston is broken up into several factions - each
using
a mixed set of tools from
Map Info, Arc IMS, Arc SDE, Oracle Spatial (Geocoded data in MS Access, SQL
Server, Oracle) and all want a means of sharing each others data and have
been trying to do it for 10 years evidentally.  The first phase will just
inventory what we have out there.  The second phase will be a means of
sharing this (e.g. using the ogr tools to load data into postgis and then
dispense it to authorized users in whatever format they need), but it would
be even more of a treat if they could access it directly via ArcIMS,
Mapserve, WFS, WMS etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pramsey at refractions.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 AM
To: postgis-users at postgis.refractions.net
Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Imsemu and feature service

  Nope. I daily pray for the world to produce a client who will actually
pay for the development of a complete ArcIMS emulator. I know one will
show up eventually. :)
  My current plan for imsemu is to (a) redo what I have in PHP (I know,
typical retrograde developer behavior, but the net benefit is a *way*
easier install, and better performance too) and (b) work on supporting
ArcExplorer as a client (AE seems to have a somewhat different wire
protocol talking to IMS than ArcMap).

P.

Tyler Mitchell wrote:
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> Hi guys, any movement on the imsemu for loading features?
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