[Qgis-community-team] Renaming Style Manager?

Tue Jan 18 07:39:02 PST 2022

Maybe "Layer configuration"?

Andreas

On 2022-01-18 16:30, Jörn Gutzeit wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I agree with Alex: don't want to add to the confusion, but doing it 
> anyway :-)
> 
> When I read it, I thought: right, also for me the word ‚style' means 
> how something looks and IMHO that is what is managed in the Style 
> Manager. And a QML file stores (by now?) more than that.
> 
> After thinking about it: for me, what is stored in a QML file is best 
> described as ‚Layer Properties Settings', but that's probably too long 
> ;-) Could it just be called ‚Layer Properties' or ‚Layer Settings'? I 
> prefer Layer Settings, then a QML file would be a Layer Settings File.
> 
> Jörn
> 
> Am 15.01.22 um 11:14 schrieb Alexandre Neto:
> Not wanting to add more confusion, but adding it anyway :-p
> 
> Maybe it's not the style manager that that needs to be changed, but the 
> term "style" itself and how it is used.
> 
> At least for me the word style is related to the way something looks.
> 
> In QGIS, when you save a "style" you are actually saving many of the 
> layer "properties" and not all are related to the way the layer will 
> look.
> 
> So style could be reserved to symbols, labels, color ramps, and so 
> on... And maybe we need another term for what we call style now.
> 
> We also have Layer Definition Files.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Alex
> 
> A sexta, 14/01/2022, 21:06, Charles Dixon-Paver <charles at kartoza.com> 
> escreveu:
> +1 for Design Manager
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 23:00, Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Harrissou and Jörn,
> 
> Good to see all these previous discussions. Seems like everyone agrees 
> that "Style Manager" has to be renamed but we don't have a good 
> alternative yet. As Nyall said in 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765, "Symbol Manager" is not correct 
> either.
> 
> We're looking for an umbrella term that covers: symbols, color ramps, 
> text formats, label settings, legend patch shapes, and 3D symbols.
> 
> We use "resources" in the Resource Manager, however that's for 
> "Symbology (SVG, images, styles), Processing scripts, Processing 
> models, R scripts and checklists" (according to 
> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/qgis_resource_sharing/).
> 
> Brainstorming:
> 
> * Cartography Resources
> * Visual Library
> * Design Manager
> * ...
> 
> What do you think about "design"?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anita
> 
> On 14.01.2022 21:25, Jörn Gutzeit wrote: Hi,
> 
> I also recently had a confusion between style/style: I wanted to write 
> the documentation for the new feature "Save all styles" and first 
> searched for it in the style manger (also because the issue has the tag 
> "style manager" ... ;-) ). The new feature, however, makes it possible 
> to save several styles from the layer properties dialog as QML/SLD 
> files or in a db [1].
> 
> Now we are in a discussion how to separate this styles in the chapter 
> (all layer properties) and the style manager (symbols only) [2]. 
> Renaming the style manager might help ...
> 
> Regards,
> Jörn
> 
> [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/4398
> [2] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/pull/7217
> 
> Am 14.01.2022 um 16:39 schrieb Delaz J:
> Hi Anita, all
> 
> The inconsistent use of the word "style" is indeed an issue and 
> confusing. It was raised years ago in 
> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/16 (and probably in 
> QGIS repo but hard to find) with an attempt of fix at 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2765 (you'll find some answers to 
> your suggestion of symbol manager).
> 
> Maybe the time has come for the cleanup...?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Harrissou
> 
> Le 14/01/2022 à 13:14, Anita Graser a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> This question was triggered by Tim at
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/231
> 
> The terms "style" and "symbol" are used somewhat inconsistently in the
> QGIS application and on the QGIS hub website. For example, in Settings 
> |
> Style Manager the users actually manage symbols. On the hub, the
> "styles" page allows sharing symbol definitions (XML) but not styles 
> (QML).
> 
> This later inconsistency is confusing, i.e. it confused me when I 
> wanted
> to share a QML file and realized that I cannot.
> 
> I think it would be worthwhile to strive for more consistency and to
> rename the Style Manager because it really is a symbol manager. It's
> Import/Export functionality deals with XML symbols and not QML styles.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anita
> 
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