[QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report

Mon Feb 26 03:37:53 PST 2024

Ha, yeah pragmatism is a very good reason. I've battled with mail 
delivery recently in a much smaller project and it was not fun.

Thanks for all your work, you awesome people!

Cheers, Hannes

PS: To be honest, I get a deja vu, so if I ranted about this (without 
offering help or solutions :} ) before in the past, sorry!

On 22.02.24 15:51, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>
> Hi Johannes and Lova,
>
> The current reality is that the QGIS PSC is using Google 
> infrastructure (Google Drive, Google Mail, youtube channels; sometimes 
> Google Meet) quite extensively. It wouldn't be so easy to swap things 
> out. In the PSC meetings we use JITSI, but for the QGIS Open Day it is 
> also Google infrastructure, as it scales better for more users. We 
> also use GSOC in order to bring in new developers.
>
> We know that some people don't like our usage of Google services, but 
> we also need to be pragmatic. Doing more things ourselves with open 
> source tools or other alternatives would be possible, but would mean 
> that we can spend less time directly on improving QGIS.
>
> Greetings,
> Andreas
>
> On 2024-02-22 15:34, Johannes Kröger via QGIS-Developer wrote:
>
>> Hi Lova,
>>
>> if I understand it right, using smtp.gmail.com *will* send all mails 
>> via Google. I don't know which SMTP host is currently used.
>>
>> Looking at the MX records of qgis.org it seems like Google is used 
>> already anyways so I might be barking up an old and rotten tree. :(
>>
>> It really should not be any of Google's business when people 
>> communicate with qgis.org addresses.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Cheers, Hannes
>>
>> On 19.02.24 06:37, Lova Andriarimalala wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Hannes,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate that.
>>>
>>> > Does this mean that Gmail will be involved in all those mails?
>>>
>>> I apologise for that. Indeed, we propose using smtp.gmail.com as 
>>> EMAIL_HOST instead of smtp to fix the email-sending feature since it 
>>> sometimes goes into the spam folder.
>>>
>>> However, I think this won't change the account type because we use 
>>> the same as the current email and keep the part `@qgis.org` unless 
>>> I'm mistaken. But maybe my PR's name doesn't reflect that. For now, 
>>> I will update the PR and convert it to a draft.
>>>
>>> > Can't a OSGeo mail account be used instead?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure of the answer to this, sorry.
>>>
>>> Dear @Tim Sutton <mailto:tim at kartoza.com>, could you please advise 
>>> me on that?Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Lova
>>>
>>> —
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>>> Image
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>>> *Lova Andriarimalala*
>>>
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>>> *From: *QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> 
>>> <mailto:qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of 
>>> Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup) via QGIS-Developer 
>>> <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org> <mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Date: *Friday, 16 February 2024 at 5:24 PM
>>> *To: *qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org 
>>> <mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org> 
>>> <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org> <mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report
>>>
>>> Hey Lova,
>>>
>>> thanks for all your great work!
>>>
>>> This caught my eye:
>>>
>>> > Use Gmail as the email provider 
>>> <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/356>
>>>
>>> Does this mean that Gmail will be involved in all those mails? I 
>>> would be strongly against proactively exposing any data to such a 
>>> company if not absolutely necessary.
>>>
>>> Can't a OSGeo mail account be used instead?
>>>
>>> It's bad enough that so much mail is already centralized and thus 
>>> available to a single party/company but as long as a user is not 
>>> willingly using Gmail themselves already, it would be great if 
>>> Google (or any other similar third party) was not involved in such 
>>> mails.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Hannes
>>>
>>> On 16.02.24 13:52, Lova Andriarimalala via QGIS-Developer wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>     I'm starting a new thread because the previous one exceeds the
>>>     limit. I've included for you a report which details the progress
>>>     made this week on the development of the plugin and feed website.
>>>
>>>     *New PR for the plugins website:*
>>>
>>>       * Use Gmail as the email provider
>>>         <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/356>
>>>       * Set media and static path as the same as in production
>>>         <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/357>
>>>       * Fix plugin detail rating
>>>         <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/359>: this is a
>>>         fix for #354 <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/354>
>>>       * Add local timezone to XML
>>>         <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/360>: this is a
>>>         fix for #353 <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/353>
>>>
>>>     *New PRs for the feed website:*
>>>
>>>       * Use Gmail as the email provider
>>>         <https://github.com/qgis/qgis-feed/pull/70>
>>>
>>>     Next week, I will try to plan the deployment of some of these
>>>     PRs. I will also continue to implement the components developed
>>>     by Kontur on the QGIS Feed website.
>>>
>>>     Have a great weekend,
>>>
>>>     Lova
>>>
>>>     —
>>>
>>>     Image
>>>
>>>     *Lova Andriarimalala*
>>>
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