[QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report

Thu Feb 22 06:51:43 PST 2024

Hi Johannes and Lova,

The current reality is that the QGIS PSC is using Google infrastructure 
(Google Drive, Google Mail, youtube channels; sometimes Google Meet) 
quite extensively. It wouldn't be so easy to swap things out. In the PSC 
meetings we use JITSI, but for the QGIS Open Day it is also Google 
infrastructure, as it scales better for more users. We also use GSOC in 
order to bring in new developers.

We know that some people don't like our usage of Google services, but we 
also need to be pragmatic. Doing more things ourselves with open source 
tools or other alternatives would be possible, but would mean that we 
can spend less time directly on improving QGIS.

Greetings,
Andreas

On 2024-02-22 15:34, Johannes Kröger via QGIS-Developer wrote:

> Hi Lova,
> 
> if I understand it right, using smtp.gmail.com *will* send all mails 
> via Google. I don't know which SMTP host is currently used.
> 
> Looking at the MX records of qgis.org it seems like Google is used 
> already anyways so I might be barking up an old and rotten tree. :(
> 
> It really should not be any of Google's business when people 
> communicate with qgis.org addresses.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Cheers, Hannes
> 
> On 19.02.24 06:37, Lova Andriarimalala wrote:
> 
> Dear Hannes,
> 
> Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate that.
> 
>> Does this mean that Gmail will be involved in all those mails?
> 
> I apologise for that. Indeed, we propose using smtp.gmail.com as 
> EMAIL_HOST instead of smtp to fix the email-sending feature since it 
> sometimes goes into the spam folder.
> 
> However, I think this won't change the account type because we use the 
> same as the current email and keep the part `@qgis.org` unless I'm 
> mistaken. But maybe my PR's name doesn't reflect that. For now, I will 
> update the PR and convert it to a draft.
> 
>> Can't a OSGeo mail account be used instead?
> 
> I'm not sure of the answer to this, sorry.
> 
> Dear @Tim Sutton, could you please advise me on that? Thank you.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lova
> 
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> From: QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf 
> of Johannes Kröger (WhereGroup) via QGIS-Developer 
> <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
> Date: Friday, 16 February 2024 at 5:24 PM
> To: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report
> 
> Hey Lova,
> 
> thanks for all your great work!
> 
> This caught my eye:
> 
>> Use Gmail as the email provider [4]
> 
> Does this mean that Gmail will be involved in all those mails? I would 
> be strongly against proactively exposing any data to such a company if 
> not absolutely necessary.
> 
> Can't a OSGeo mail account be used instead?
> 
> It's bad enough that so much mail is already centralized and thus 
> available to a single party/company but as long as a user is not 
> willingly using Gmail themselves already, it would be great if Google 
> (or any other similar third party) was not involved in such mails.
> 
> Cheers, Hannes
> 
> On 16.02.24 13:52, Lova Andriarimalala via QGIS-Developer wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm starting a new thread because the previous one exceeds the limit. 
> I've included for you a report which details the progress made this 
> week on the development of the plugin and feed website.
> 
> New PR for the plugins website:
> 
> * Use Gmail as the email provider [4]
> * Set media and static path as the same as in production [5]
> * Fix plugin detail rating [6]: this is a fix for #354 [7]
> * Add local timezone to XML [8]: this is a fix for #353 [9]
> 
> New PRs for the feed website:
> 
> * Use Gmail as the email provider  [10]
> 
> Next week, I will try to plan the deployment of some of these PRs. I 
> will also continue to implement the components developed by Kontur on 
> the QGIS Feed website.
> 
> Have a great weekend,
> 
> Lova
> 
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[4] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/356
[5] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/357
[6] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/359
[7] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/354
[8] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/360
[9] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/issues/353
[10] https://github.com/qgis/qgis-feed/pull/70
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