[Qgis-psc] Request about training certificates from QGIS user group Ecuador

Mon Jan 31 05:38:17 PST 2022

Hi all,

I agree with Anita. Option 2 seems more consistent. It ensures that there
are always two parties accepting an application for training certification.

I also don't expect a "flood" of applications from user groups. It would
probably be more the exception than the rule that a user group also applies
for running QGIS training with training certificates.

Andreas

On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 14:20, Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at> wrote:

> I'm not against option 3 but I was voting for option 2 for the following
> reason: If the applicant is not a user group, then a user group and the
> reviewer check that everything is in order. However, if the applicant is a
> user group and we still want to have two parties that look over the
> application, then reviewer and PSC seems like a natural approach.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anita
> On 31.01.2022 12:48, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi Hans
>
> Apologies, I stand corrected, I assume Anita also intended 3?
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:19 AM Hans van der Kwast <
> h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>>
>> That's in fact option 3: review of course materials, decision by reviewer.
>>
>>
>> If there are no objections with that, I'll proceed with requesting the
>> course materials from QGIS Ecuador.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>> *Sent:* 28 January 2022 20:07
>> *To:* Hans van der Kwast
>> *Cc:* Marco Bernasocchi; Andreas Neumann; QGIS PSC List; Kurt Menke
>> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-psc] Request about training certificates from QGIS
>> user group Ecuador
>>
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>>
>> Hi Hans
>>
>> I would be good for option 2 - I dont think the PSC needs to get involved
>> unless you want to defer to them for advice. For me that follows the
>> Principle of Self Organisation better.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:28 AM Hans van der Kwast <
>> h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't recall the arguments we had for not allowing user groups to join
>>> the certificate program and I'm not against that.
>>>
>>> So I assume we all agree that user groups can apply.
>>>
>>>
>>> For the review, however, we can't apply the normal procedure and need to
>>> decide how to come to a decision.
>>>
>>> Here are some options. I prefer the first one.
>>>
>>>    1. Applications of official User Groups will be immediately accepted
>>>    by the reviewer. User Groups by definition contribute to QGIS and we can
>>>    assume that given the expertise in the group the course materials are of
>>>    high quality and up-to-date.
>>>    2. After application of a User Group they are asked to provide
>>>    course materials for review. PSC takes decision based on advise from
>>>    reviewer (in the normal procedure a User Group takes the decision and if
>>>    there's no User Group, the PSC takes the decision based on advise from the
>>>    reviewer).
>>>    3. Same as 2, but reviewer takes the decission without involvement
>>>    of PSC.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know your opinions so I can proceed with the application
>>> for QGIS Ecuador.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>> *Sent:* 28 January 2022 01:11
>>> *To:* Marco Bernasocchi
>>> *Cc:* Andreas Neumann; Hans van der Kwast; Kurt Menke; QGIS PSC List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-psc] Request about training certificates from QGIS
>>> user group Ecuador
>>>
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>>>
>>> Hans - maybe you can clarify the rationale for not allowing user groups
>>> to provide certificates?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 9:28 AM Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also agree with Tim
>>>>
>>>> Marco Bernasocchi
>>>>
>>>> QGIS.org Chair
>>>> OSGeo.org Board member
>>>> OPENGIS.ch CEO
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2022, 14:47 Tim Sutton, <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably one for Kurt and Hans to chime in on. For me I don't see a
>>>>> problem with this idea as long as all the normal criteria are met.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:50 AM Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am forwarding the following request from the QGIS user group
>>>>>> Ecuador (a new sustaining member from just recently):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Andreas, I have a query.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a group of users can we be part of the certification program?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I reviewed the certification process and registered our request,
>>>>>> however, I received an email in which they mention that user groups cannot
>>>>>> issue certificates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have seen that there are user groups that are in the program and
>>>>>> therefore register the request to our user group in the program and be able
>>>>>> to contribute to the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll look forward for your answer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adrian
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
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>>>>>  * Geospatial web development
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