[Qgis-tr] [QGIS-Developer] QGIS.org new website now online

DelazJ delazj at gmail.com
Mon Jul 15 22:39:44 PDT 2024


Hi list, PSC

Thanks to all for the efforts put in the new website. Nice work.

I didn't see any related discussion so I suppose there is no issue with 
that but could there be a reply whether the documentation or the Desktop 
would be concerned by the no-translation decision, please? Thanks.

It is still unclear to me why the decision to not translate the website, 
but I must admit that I'm aware of it for months so this is not the 
point today. I thought there would just be no translated site.

What is unclear to me in the "leaving user groups hold their translated 
QGIS.ORG website" is how technically user groups that would like to 
provide localized website would proceed. Is there any how-to? Are all 
the candidates able to maintain the required infrastructure and keep 
their website up to date? Being an enthusiast translator doesn't mean a 
"geek". And are we not over-complicating the system, splitting the 
resources we have while a centralized translation system at QGIS.ORG 
could benefit to everyone? How about the translation infrastructure is 
managed by QGIS.ORG linked to the qgis-hugo repo BUT qgis.org does not 
provide translated pages on the website. Translated strings are just 
pulled in the repo and then every user group willing to translate 
somehow plugs to the (forked?) repo and build the localized version they 
want and serve it on their own website? Is this possible?

Sorry if there have been discussions related to this I would have 
missed, but translators and non-English speaking users are getting 
confused or at least, have questions. And having a clear direction and 
information might help.

Kind regards,

Harrissou

Le 12/07/2024 à 16:34, Stefano Campus via QGIS-Developer a écrit :
> Hi Tim,
> thank you for information and your work.
>
> please can you explain how content consistency will be ensured between 
> the English original of qgis.org <http://qgis.org> and the forks of 
> local communities who want to translate the content not only of the 
> web pages but also of the documentation etc.?
>
> currently, thanks to transifex, new English contents are uploaded to 
> transifex and after translation operations would be flipped to 
> qgis.org <http://qgis.org> translated pages e.g. qgis.org/it 
> <http://qgis.org/it> for Italian.
>
> how do we do that now?
>
> thank you very much
>
> stefano
>
>
>
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>     Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:35:18 +0100
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>     Hi all
>
>     ? The new website is now online! Visit https://qgis.org to try it
>     out. We
>     have spent a *lot* of time trying to QA things but undoubtedly
>     there will
>     still be some *gremlins* in the works. Please file issues here
>     <https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Hugo/issues> if you find things that are
>     *substantive* issues (i.e. a broken link, spelling error) and not
>     'reviews'
>     of our work please. If you have other comments or suggestions for
>     improvements, we much prefer that they be accompanied by *PR's* which
>     implement your proposed improvements to keep our workload down and the
>     issue queue short.
>
>     ? *We would love to get some more representative
>     images/screenshots for
>     the front and top level pages, so PR's addressing those will be
>     treated
>     with priority.*
>
>     ??Thank you so much to the Kontur team (Aliaksandra, Andrei, Nadzeya,
>     Tigran, Darafei and more!), the members of the website working
>     group that
>     we formed, Anniina, Lova, Richard, J?rgen, Anita, Andreas. Amy,
>     Thiasha,
>     Jeremy Prior, and the many others (apologies for not naming you
>     individually) who contributed ideas, work, and support in the process.
>
>     ? Please note that your browser / ISP / DNS server and similar may be
>     caching qgis.org <http://qgis.org> and the DNS entries related to
>     it. Before reporting an
>     issue:
>
>     1. Try an anonymous browser to see if things work normally there
>     2. Try clearing your cache in your browser
>     3. Potentially you may need to wait a little for DNS propagation
>     to complete
>
>     ?? Please note that we made the decision NOT to translate the site
>     into
>     languages other than english. If you are an official country user
>     group, we
>     encourage you to:
>
>     1. Advise the PSC of your intention to host a localized copy of
>     the site
>     2. Fork the web site repo https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Hugo
>     3. Translate the content pages on your fork
>     4. Host your fork on your country domain e.g. qgis.id <http://qgis.id>
>     5. Advise us when your fork is online, we will cross link to your
>     site from
>     QGIS.org
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Regards
>
>     Tim
>
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>     Tim Sutton
>     Kartoza Co-Founder
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