[QGIS-Developer] Bummer... not working geopackage & QGIS
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it
Sun Jul 14 19:16:36 PDT 2019
Hi Nyall,
sounds reasonable to me. So the order of magnitude is in the tens of thousands €/$, right?
This sounds a case for an ad hoc sponsoring.
Cheers.
On 15 July 2019 03:37:19 CEST, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 11:02, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
>wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nyall, all,
>> so you're implicitly suggesting refactoring this code entirely,
>right?
>
>Yes, it needs a similar rework as has been done in the past with
>symbology, vector iteration, print layouts, processing, layer
>tree/legend etc. It's the oldest foundational code still in use in
>QGIS today and is overdue for a rethink and rebuild.
>
>> I imagine this would be a major effort. Does anybody have an idea of
>the order of magnitude of the work involved?
>
>Well, Alessandro and I debated in the past whether or not to submit
>this as a grant proposal, but in the end decided that the work
>required was too large for available grant funds (and was too painful
>to undertake on a partially funded/semi-volunteer basis). There's a
>lot involved, because attribute table also includes forms and editor
>widgets.
>
>In my view the editor widget code itself is in decent shape, but the
>form code has drifted far from its original design and had too many
>extra parts bolted on, and now needs a (code) redesign. The attribute
>table dialog/view and model need completely reworking, with
>performance specifically in mind.
>
>Nyall
>
>
>
>> Regards.
>>
>> On 15 July 2019 01:58:53 CEST, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 00:24, Alessandro Pasotti
><apasotti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:03 PM Paolo Cavallini
><cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/07/19 20:03, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> may I draw ones attention to this (in my view pretty serious)
>issue:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28914
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Showing off QGIS in combination with a geopackage failed today,
>>>>>> because 'it just does *NOT* work' :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanted to create an issue and then found the above one
>>>>>> (which is a duplicate of #29035, #29166, #29766 etc)
>>>>>> So added a test dataset to the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 'Move selection on top' in the attribute table is broken for
>already
>>>>>> some versions of QGIS. Not sure about others, but I often show
>this to
>>>>>> newbies, to find their selected features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this kind of basic functionality should not be broken
>for such a
>>>>>> long time in our beloved QGIS is it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for the report. I'm also surprised, as I assumed
>this basic
>>>>> functionality was covered by tests. Should we invest more in
>adding
>>>>> tests in this area?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Test on the GUI are very very limited, and they are also quite
>hard to write and to maintain.
>>>>
>>>> If you add that the attribute table code has been crying for a
>serious refactory since 2.x you know why it's broken (again).
>>>>
>>>> But yes, we should invest more in the tests AND in the refactoring
>of the code, the problem IMO with the attribute table is that it would
>be a *huge* effort.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also (it's not defence, but...) I seem to recall this particular bug
>>> popping up in various forms since forever. Someone will post a
>>> (partial?) fix, and then a month later the bug will be bug (maybe in
>>> another form?). In any case, I very much doubt this is a 3.x
>>> regression, rather just some piece of fragile code which was
>>> sticky-taped together in the first place, and that sticky-tape keeps
>>> coming undone.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately (and I hate to give bad news like this), but I'm with
>>> Alessandro here. Attribute table is the most fragile code left in
>>> modern QGIS versions. It's inefficient, difficult to debug,
>constantly
>>> regressing, and the code is a nightmare mix of interdependent
>circular
>>> signals. The code is honestly horrible to work with, which is
>another
>>> reason I suspect attribute table bugs are "overlooked" during bug
>>> fixing sprints...
>>>
>>> Nyall
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sorry for being short
--
Sorry for being short
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