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Starting: Fri Jan 1 11:32:16 PST 2010
Ending: Sat Jan 30 18:14:22 PST 2010
Messages: 116

• [OSGeo-Discuss] 2009 Annual Report Startup!   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] [conference] ACCU 2010   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Joseph Reeves
• [OSGeo-Discuss] 2009 Annual Report Startup!   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] [conference] ACCU 2010   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Amazon Initiative - online spatial analysis for ecosystem service management   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Bolsena Code Sprint 2010 - open for subscriptions   Jeroen Ticheler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] CFP - SECOND OPEN SOURCE GIS UK CONFERENCE - OSGIS 2010 ; Abstracts Submission deadline: 30 January 2010   Suchith Anand
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   miblon
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Stefan Steiniger
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Alex Mandel
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Andy Turner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Paolo Cavallini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Arnie Shore
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Louis Sayers
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Arnie Shore
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Louis Sayers
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Arnie Shore
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Louis Sayers
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Dave Patton
• [OSGeo-Discuss] ForestSat 2010 - Call for papers   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2010 Call for Workshops and Tutorials is open   Oscar Fonts
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [Antiquist] Fwd: Ordinance Survey consultation   Chris Puttick
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [Qgis-community-team] Announcing the release of QGIS 1.4.0 'Enceladus'   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   andrea giacomelli
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Ravi
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Vasilis Vlastaras
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Gavin
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Sampson, David
• [OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS GIS Training Program at Chennai, India - March 15th - 19th 2010   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Haiti Response   David William Bitner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Haiti Response   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Markus Neteler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] large grid challenge   Laurens van der Burgt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Andy Turner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practicesand how it help to foster collaboration.   Bob Basques
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Bob Basques
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Schlagel, Joel D IWR
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Haris Kurtagic
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photosautomatically   Streithorst, Kip
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Alex Mandel
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Stefan Steiniger
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Lester Caine
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Dave Patton
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Tim Waters
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Markus Neteler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Eduardo Kanegae
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Tim Waters
• [OSGeo-Discuss] MIL-OSS Conference   Mark Lucas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] MIL-OSS Conference   Mark Lucas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Online Maps with APIs and Mapservices symposium   Suchith Anand
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Eric Lemoine
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Alexandre Leroux
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Jeff McKenna
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Alexandre Leroux
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Jeff McKenna
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Robert Hollingsworth
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Andreas Paukner-Ruzicka
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Robert Hollingsworth
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Landon Blake
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Ragi Y. Burhum
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Arnulf Christl
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Cameron Shorter
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Bob Basques
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Jody Garnett
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Annual Report Reminder   Gary Sherman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Greek mailing list   Dimitris Kotzinos
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Humanitarian GIS guide   Andrew Turner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Humanitarian GIS guide   Ravi
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Dave Sampson
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Howard Butler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Stefan Steiniger
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Landon Blake
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OWS Common Python Server. Guidance Required   Dave Sampson
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Poland OSGeo Chapter's members will co-organize a conference   Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Poland OSGeo Chapter's members will co-organize a conference   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Poland OSGeo Chapter's members will co-organize a conference   Tomasz.Kubik
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Joseph Reeves
• [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Discuss Digest, Vol 37, Issue 21 - Open Source for Utility Companies   Alicia Farag
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Include remote sensing software in OSGeo desktop shootout? Re: Discuss Digest, Vol 36, Issue 31 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?   Jody Garnett
• [OSGeo-Discuss] spatial ETL / bulk loading tools (?)   Brian Russo
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Support for '@' field type in a Shapefile.   Ariel Nunez
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Support for '@' field type in a Shapefile.   Sylvain Maillard
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Support for '@' field type in a Shapefile.   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Three weeks till Geospatial Live DVD 3.0 feature freeze   Cameron Shorter
• [OSGeo-Discuss] UMN MapServer Training   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] videolectures.net   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] videolectures.net   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Simone Giannecchini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Pablo Carreira
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Simone Giannecchini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Pablo Carreira
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Simone Giannecchini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] web mapping package   Pieter De Graef
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Website News Editor(s) welcome   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Wikispam at http://trac.osgeo.org/metacrs/   Helmut Kudrnovsky
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS   Ravi
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Amazon Initiative - online spatial analysis for ecosystem service management   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Bolsena Code Sprint 2010 - open for subscriptions   Jeroen Ticheler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] CFP - SECOND OPEN SOURCE GIS UK CONFERENCE - OSGIS 2010 ; Abstracts Submission deadline: 30 January 2010   Suchith Anand
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   miblon
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Stefan Steiniger
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Alex Mandel
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Andy Turner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Paolo Cavallini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] density maps   Arnie Shore
• [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Discuss Digest, Vol 37, Issue 21 - Open Source for Utility Companies   Alicia Farag
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Louis Sayers
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Arnie Shore
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Louis Sayers
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Arnie Shore
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Louis Sayers
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management   Dave Patton
• [OSGeo-Discuss] ForestSat 2010 - Call for papers   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2010 Call for Workshops and Tutorials is open   Oscar Fonts
• FW: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practicesand how it help to foster collaboration. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• Fw: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Ravi
• FW: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practicesand how it help to foster collaboration. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• Fw: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Ravi
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [Antiquist] Fwd: Ordinance Survey consultation   Chris Puttick
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [Qgis-community-team] Announcing the release of QGIS 1.4.0 'Enceladus'   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   andrea giacomelli
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Ravi
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Vasilis Vlastaras
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Gavin
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?   Sampson, David
• [OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS GIS Training Program at Chennai, India - March 15th - 19th 2010   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Haiti Response   David William Bitner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Haiti Response   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials?   Markus Neteler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] HELP PLEASE - Does anyone know where I can get high resolution GIS data for use in tutorials? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Include remote sensing software in OSGeo desktop shootout? Re: Discuss Digest, Vol 36, Issue 31 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] large grid challenge   Laurens van der Burgt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Bob Basques
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Schlagel, Joel D IWR
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Haris Kurtagic
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration.   Andy Turner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practicesand how it help to foster collaboration.   Bob Basques
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for information about Open Data practices and how it help to foster collaboration. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]   Bruce Bannerman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Tim Waters
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Markus Neteler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Alex Mandel
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Stefan Steiniger
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photosautomatically   Streithorst, Kip
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Eduardo Kanegae
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Tim Waters
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Lester Caine
• [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically   Dave Patton
• [OSGeo-Discuss] MIL-OSS Conference   Mark Lucas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] MIL-OSS Conference   Mark Lucas
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Online Maps with APIs and Mapservices symposium   Suchith Anand
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Alexandre Leroux
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Jeff McKenna
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Alexandre Leroux
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Jeff McKenna
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OpenLayers for the Vancouver Olympics 2010 Weather Web Map   Eric Lemoine
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Robert Hollingsworth
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Andreas Paukner-Ruzicka
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Robert Hollingsworth
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Landon Blake
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Opensource Geospatial Job Tracking Software   Ragi Y. Burhum
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Arnulf Christl
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Cameron Shorter
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Jody Garnett
• [OSGeo-Discuss] options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   Bob Basques
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: options for getting paid technical/mentoring support on foss geo applications   maning sambale
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Annual Report Reminder   Gary Sherman
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Greek mailing list   Dimitris Kotzinos
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Humanitarian GIS guide   Andrew Turner
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Humanitarian GIS guide   Ravi
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Dave Sampson
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Howard Butler
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Stefan Steiniger
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO projects and Python 3.x   Landon Blake
• [OSGeo-Discuss] OWS Common Python Server. Guidance Required   Dave Sampson
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Poland OSGeo Chapter's members will co-organize a conference   Tomasz.Kubik
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Poland OSGeo Chapter's members will co-organize a conference   Arnulf Christl (aka Seven)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Poland OSGeo Chapter's members will co-organize a conference   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] spatial ETL / bulk loading tools (?)   Brian Russo
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Support for '@' field type in a Shapefile.   Ariel Nunez
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Support for '@' field type in a Shapefile.   Sylvain Maillard
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Support for '@' field type in a Shapefile.   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Three weeks till Geospatial Live DVD 3.0 feature freeze   Cameron Shorter
• [OSGeo-Discuss] UMN MapServer Training   Kumaran Narayanaswamy
• [OSGeo-Discuss] videolectures.net   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] videolectures.net   Mateusz Loskot
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Simone Giannecchini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Pablo Carreira
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Christopher Schmidt
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Simone Giannecchini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Pablo Carreira
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WCS/WMS accuracy tests?   Simone Giannecchini
• [OSGeo-Discuss] web mapping package   Pieter De Graef
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Website News Editor(s) welcome   Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Wikispam at http://trac.osgeo.org/metacrs/   Helmut Kudrnovsky
• [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?   Jody Garnett
• [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS   Ravi

Last message date: Sat Jan 30 18:14:22 PST 2010
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